Sex-change therapies on children

Pete Chagnon
OneNewsNow
4/23/2008

Children's Hospital Boston -The Boston Globe recently published an article on Dr. Norman Spack, who last year started a new clinic at Children's Hospital that, among other treatments, performs sex-change therapy on "transgendered" children.

The Gender management clinic, as it is called, defines that group as "patients with no known anatomic or biochemical disorder who feel like a member of the opposite sex."

Spack details how he prescribes hormone therapy to halt puberty in children as young as ten years old, and then uses further hormone therapy to change children to the sex of their desire.
He replied that his rabbi said it best when he said that "the transgendered are also created in the image of God."

Pete Chagnon says, “It's a tremendous embarrassment that he would try to claim that Judaism has any connection at all to this kind of demonic and lunatic behavior.”

Source: Sex-change therapies on children 'beyond the pale' (OneNewsNow.com)

Commentary: How the freak does a ten year old know he wants to be a chick when it reaches 40 years old???
If memory serves I remember like G.I. Joes, model cars and stuff.

This is example of the damage done by organized efforts to normalize and encourage deviant and abnormal behavior. Liberals have turned homosexuality from a sexual deviation, to a living sexual fantasy and now still unbridled have given it civil rights protection as a “mystical magical race” that in thousands and thousands of years, only were solely discovered by 1960 era socialist and anarchist.
Not having “jet skis” they spend every waking moment on organized empowerment by jumping on the civil rights band wagon.

How much more must they cheapen the blood and sweat of the black saints who gave there all for a just and noble cause.

Discuss.

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I'm no expert, but I don't believe homosexuality and transgenderism are the same thing. Presenting them as such does your position no favors...

I'm not even going to pretend that I know what you're saying there...

Or there...

@Hank:

You are aware that there are some things in biology that exist if you like it or not?

Transsexuallity (being in the "wrong" genders body) or Intersexuallity (being born with both male & female charactaristics) are natural eventhough they are rare...

Shockingly I discovered that for the later one, the Prussian Laws from 200 years ago were much wiser and better than the current laws... at least in Germany.

And eventhough it is off topic:
There have been Homosexuals before 1960s and for most of human history it was accepted or at least not a crime...

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I'm going to have to agree with Hank here(not on what he actually said but on his opposition of sex change procedures on children). While I might understand it for hermaphrodites(and that's still just a might), children in general are too experimental in there behaviors for their 'sexual identity' to be determined. If someone in their late teens was identified as a transexual and, after counseling on the subject, wanted a sex change operation I'm all for it. But a prepubescent child can't make that kind of decision.

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Assuming this isn't just propaganda from whatever "one news now" is (not something I want to click on at work), I would agree that performing sex change operations on children is negligent at best. I don't see how any issues of identity related to sex can be solidly diagnosed before this is any sexual identity of which to speak.

Hank, I have no idea what any of your commentary was supposed to mean.

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Ahh, Hank. Always the reactionary. Too bad your "news source" is, yet again, completely full of shit.

New clinic addresses intersex and gender issues

This clinic works with "infants, children, adolescents and young adults with genitourinary or hormonal disorders or other medical issues that may make it difficult to determine their sex, and that may interfere with sexual and reproductive function."

For kids without anatomical or biochemical disorders, real psychological care will be provided.

This clinic is a good thing that will be helping a group of children that have not been receiving the care that they need and deserve.

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Read it again.
My source: The Boston Globe recently published an article on Dr. Norman Spack, who last year started a new clinic at Children's Hospital that, among other treatments, performs sex-change therapy on "transgendered" children. The Gender management clinic, as it is called, defines that group as "patients with no known anatomic or biochemical disorder who feel like a member of the opposite sex."
Spack details how he prescribes hormone therapy to halt puberty in children as young as ten years old, and then uses further hormone therapy to change children to the sex of their desire.

Your source (Bottom of page.): The clinic will also care for children and young adults who present as transgender those who have no known anatomic or biochemical disorder, yet feel like a member of the opposite sex. Such feelings can emerge early, even in the preschool years, and can cause considerable psychological distress. For that reason, transgendered young people are often assumed to have a psychiatric disorder and are placed on psychotropic medications. By late adolescence, a high percentage have attempted suicide.

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Yes. Those children with a recognized psychological disorder will receive appropriate treatment, hopefully reducing the risk of suicide.

NOWHERE does it say that actual surgeries will be performed on those children. Your "source" is mixing two sets of patients with the goal (apparently successful on you) of creating hysterics.

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I agree that such treatments are ridiculous for someone so young.

I also still think that homosexuality and transgenderism are two completely different things.

Absolutely.

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Well, I think this is a by far too private & complicated matter to create a "culture war"-thesis out of it.

Humans are complicated. And eventhough we usually imagine children as being happy and smiling all the time and not knowing much of the world... they are complicated too...
So I wouldn't redicule their problems with their gender... and the differences between men and women are more complex than the different role in sexual activities...
I suppose that they follow a very strict protocol at that clinic long before any threadment starts...

And if we like it or not... I guess if a kid is really transsexual... it is perhaps better if this is threaded before puperty... and I don't wish anyone the psychological distress of "living in the wrong" body...

As for intersexualls... I think it is sometimes better if they grow up in order to be clear what they want to be...

EDIT:
I have not made up my mind if it is right or wrong... There are two difficult things in conflict: 1. It might be much easier and safer to change a gender before puperty 2.It's about kids and while I believe they are quite complex, I think it is too early for them to decide, and it would be wrong to let someone else decide for them...

Argh... moral dilema

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I think I could have gone on a long time without having to think about this "issue".

We really are a weird-ass country.

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I see faaaar more harm from this than good.
It is not that far-fetched to think that a weirdo parent would from early on encourage a child to be the opposite sex - example say a woman who hates men with a passion, has a son - believes the child would be better off as a girl and raises the boy as a girl - who knows at that young of an age the boy could be confused enough to go through with it.

I wholeheartedly disagree. First, the clinic is focused on children who are struggling with malformed genitalia. These kids really need the help. Second, the potential abuse that you talk about is fairly small. There are a few sick individuals out there, but the potential good that can be done, IMHO, outweighs the potential for harm.

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you may be right, I read through the article as well - I picked out something that I was looking for - that is, a way in which the physically deformed could also include those merely having "gender confusion"...and I found it under the "list of conditions we treat" -... the 7th one down - transgender issues....that opens the loophole.
You may be absolutely right that they focus on the clearly deformed - however the 7th entry opens the door for those with an agenda.