Is hating 'haters' hateful ?

May 2008 AFA JOURNAL pg. 11

* My comments in red between stars. *

Hate has a pretty bad name in the world today. No one wants to be called a hater, especially Christians, which is probably why we get accused of it all the time by our opponents. Homosexuals are especially fond of calling people haters. They even invented the word homophobia, which means hate and fear of homosexuals, envisaged as a mental illness. (A phobia is an anxiety disorder.)

I hate being called a homophobe. It has such an ugly connotation. It's especially unpleasant because, as a Christian, I'm supposed to have a reputation for loving people, not hating them. So I've worked really hard over the years to try to get the homosexuals to stop calling me a homophobe. I've pointed out the difference between hating people and hating their behavior (loving the sinner but hating the sin). They hated that.

Then I tried "walking my talk" by taking an ex-gay man who was dying of AIDS into my family. My wife and I and our children loved and cared for him during the last year of his life. They hated that even more.

Then I began asking for guidance from homosexuals themselves. "Tell me, where is the line between homophobia and acceptable opposition to homosexuality?" I asked. "What if I just agree with the Bible that homosexuality is a sin no worse than any other sex outside marriage?"

"No, that's homophobic," they said.

"Suppose I talk only about the proven medical hazards of gay sex and try to discourage people from hurting themselves?"

"No, you can't do that," they said.

"How about if I say that homosexuals have the option to change if they choose?"

"Ridiculous," they answered.

* Of COURSE this is a truth they will deny. They don't want us to know that there are more EX "homosexuals" than there are "homosexuals." To recognize this fact is to admit that "homosexuality' is nothing but a perverse sexual practice. *

"Maybe I could just be completely positive, say nothing about homosexuality, and focus only on promoting the natural family and traditional marriage?"

"That's really hateful," they replied.

After awhile, I realized that the only way I could get them to stop calling me a homophobe was to start agreeing with them about everything. But here's my dilemma: I honestly believe the Bible, which says that homosexuality is wrong and harmful and that all sex belongs within marriage. I've also read the professional studies and know that gay sex hurts people because it goes against the design of their bodies. And I'm friends with a number of former homosexuals who are now married and living heterosexual lives. Do I have to give up my religion? Ignore scientific facts? Betray my friends? Is that the only way to avoid being called a hater and a homophobe?

* Which is why "homosexuals" are making such a ruckus about the wonders of atheism and saying any and EVERYTHING to make Christians seem evil. Which is why "homosexuals" fight FOR any issue concerning "separation of church and state." Which is why "homosexuals" want Americans to forget Americas history, that America was founded by Christians on Christian principles. *

There's no escape. A homophobe is anyone who, for any reason, disapproves of homosexuality in any way, shape, manner, form or degree. This leaves me with just two choices: agree that everything about homosexuality is natural, normal, healthy, moral and worthy to be celebrated or be labeled as a mentally ill, hate-filled bigot.

Am I wrong? Is there any way to openly disapprove of homosexuality without being a homophobe? Gay leaders, please set me straight on this.

* No, you're not wrong.

Accept "homosexuality" as natural, normal, healthy, moral and worthy to be celebrated or you will be called a mentally ill, hate-filled bigot.

No worries. Remember it's mentally ill, hate-filled bigots CALLING you these things. This is a common practice. True racist haters usually call OTHERS racist haters. *

Because if I'm right, that means the gay agenda is to stop everyone from following the Bible regarding sexual matters. It is, after all, their stated goal to "stamp out homophobia." No more religious freedom. It's also to suppress scientific research that has reached conclusions they don't like, especially if it helps people to change their homosexual orientation back to a heterosexual one. (Ask the doctors and scientists at NARTH Home Page what they've had to endure.) If it discourages homosexuality, even by implication, it's homophobic and can't be used.

* They do everything they can to suppress ANYTHING, ANYONE and any FACTS and history that shows "homosexuality" for what it is. *

There's a queer reasoning behind all of this. Homosexuals call me names like bigot and homophobe, condemn my religion, mock my rational conclusions about social issues, impugn my motives, display intense hostility toward my actions and curse my very existence, all under the justification that I'm a hater. But if I'm a hater for civilly opposing what they do, why aren't they haters for uncivilly opposing what I do? Such a double standard, in the context of a public debate on civil rights, is not just hypocritical, it is surreal.

* But not surprising considering the nature of the people it's coming from. *

I admit I have some hate. I hate watching people kill themselves with preventable diseases like AIDS. I hate seeing children being steered toward unhealthy lifestyles. I hate having my pro-family views distorted by dishonest journalists, politicians and academics. And I hate seeing my God being treated like a homophobe for what He teaches in His Bible.

So if you're not going to stop calling me a hater for wanting homosexuals to be saved and healed or for opposing their political agenda, let's at least see a little more of that famous "American sense of fair play" in the public debate on this issue. Hatred of haters is hateful, too.

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For anyone interested in reading more about the lunatic quoted in the OP...

Homos and Nazis and Muslims, oh my!

It's a Konspiracy!

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You're a fan of Mick Foley? (Irony in the code for the smiley...)

Who's Mick Foley?

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Don't take time to read the opening post please.

Thank you.

Good bye.

Hang on i'll get a link to explain, it was the "and, and "and" and then "oh my" run...same as him.

I skimmed some of it, but what's the point? It's just like all of the other OP's of yours where you dig up some fringe nutball, cut and paste his ravings, and pepper it with "me-too" comments in red. Is this one different than the other 754 threads you've started about how you don't approve of people being gay?

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-Thomas Jefferson

Then he probably got it from "Wizard of Oz", unless he's some more historical figure.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

I assume he got it from somwhere, he was reknown for cheap shots, butit was with the most sillyest of things.

He was a wrestler and then became the commissioner but used it to announce matches he created like "Bra and Panty" matches, in which women would compete and the only way to win is to strip their opponents down to their Bra and panties i guess...

Then he came up with TLC matches (Table, ladders and chairs matches) so he'd say: "Tables and ladders and chairs, oh my".

He'd steal a lot of phrases but put them in the most retarded of contexts not to infringe on copyrights etc, very funny.

Grown men in tights hitting each other with chairs, according to a script... not so much my thing.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Similarly the Wizard of Oz isn't my sort of thing but i thought you were doing the same with the play on words, i.e. Nazi's/gays etc and then "Oh my", all in good humor.

I'm not a big fan, either. But "Lions and Tigers and Bears, oh my!" is sort of a cultural staple. It's like me being familiar with the phrase "Show me the money!" even though I only watched that movie as a result of being on the business end of a hormonal girlfriend.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson

Ya "just like all of the other OP's of yours where you dig up some fringe nutball, cut and paste his ravings, and pepper it with "me-too" comments in red."

You're getting very good at being an ass aren't you ? The local community college offer a course you signed up for ?

"Is this one different than the other 754 threads you've started about how you don't approve of people being gay?"

Yes, we know you didn't read the writing. You don't have to prove it to us.

I'd say you're probably getting all A's in your class so far eh ?

I'm not sure I totally understand the opening post. If only someone could copy and paste it again, then I would probably be able to grasp it's contents a little better.

I think it's about some guy who likes gay people and something about AIDS and hating things, but I just can't seem to fit it all together.

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