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Someone Gets It Right...

Kudos to North Carolina Community Colleges:

Illegals Not Welcome

No way in Hell someone, who's here illegally, should be able to attend college. It's nice to see the Attorney General is of that opinion. One can only hope that this spreads...
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Re: Someone Gets It Right...

I agree with the Attorney General's decision.
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I agree with the Attorney General's decision.
Actually, it wasn't his decision, but he was consulted. It would appear as though the HMFWIC of the Community College system actually made the decision.

Either way, it's good to see...
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Actually, it wasn't his decision, but he was consulted. It would appear as though the HMFWIC of the Community College system actually made the decision.

Either way, it's good to see...
The C.C. system probably didn't want to have to deal with the inevitable lawsuit.
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The C.C. system probably didn't want to have to deal with the inevitable lawsuit.
Whatever the reason, they made the correct choice...
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Whatever the reason, they made the correct choice...
That they had to MAKE this "choice" is what I find bothersome.

How is this a "choice" ?

This is the same as having someone you don't know, some transient maybe, walk into your house and saying; "I think I made the right choice by telling this person that no, he could not eat out of my fridge, no, he could not crash in my basement."

Yeah, some "choice."

What a stupid country America is today.
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That they had to MAKE this "choice" is what I find bothersome.

How is this a "choice" ?

This is the same as having someone you don't know, some transient maybe, walk into your house and saying; "I think I made the right choice by telling this person that no, he could not eat out of my fridge, no, he could not crash in my basement."

Yeah, some "choice."

What a stupid country America is today.
I agree that the "choice" was no real choice at all.

Still, there were two options they considered: let them in, or kick their illegal skank asses out of school.

They chose wisely...
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I agree that the "choice" was no real choice at all.

Still, there were two options they considered: let them in, or kick their illegal skank asses out of school.

They chose wisely...
...and right into the tobacco fields. I doubt I'll see the day when NC really gets "serious" about that.

*shrugs*

We will sure as hell take their cheap labor but no school for you, lol.
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...and right into the tobacco fields. I doubt I'll see the day when NC really gets "serious" about that.

*shrugs*

We will sure as hell take their cheap labor but no school for you, lol.
Oh, make no mistake, I don't want them working here, either.

If some unscruplous employer hires them, that's one thing. It's quite another for the State to facilitate the education of an illegal alien...
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If they are willing to better themselves with a college education why not help them become citizens and get an education? Would you prefer they join a gang?

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If they are willing to better themselves with a college education why not help them become citizens and get an education? Would you prefer they join a gang?

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It seems we WOULD since were stupid enough to have them come into our country illegally and do work that WE'RE to fuckin' lazy to do rather than ship them back to the crappy cesspit they CAME from.

See, we pay for our laziness ONE damn way or another. We're too lazy to do the work, want cheap labor to do it for us. ... there's a price for that.

A price that isn't WORTH it in my opinion. In many OTHERS opinions too.

Not in the opinion(s) of the scumbags that run America though. The people running America are scumbags and the citizenry is too fat, lazy and ignorant to DO anything about it.

When we wake up and figure things out ...

... who knows. If that'll even HAPPEN.

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It seems we WOULD since were stupid enough to have them come into our country illegally and do work that WE'RE to fuckin' lazy to do rather than ship them back to the crappy cesspit they CAME from.
Given the reality, i don't see how you can realistically avoid these circumstances where people from Cuba, Mexico and elsewhere migrate north to work in the american economy. Why not help them out if they have shown enough initiative and desire to go to college? Instead this thread celebrates the decision to deny them any opportunity at all. A big 'fuck you' is all you get for making smart decisions about your life. Seems downright cruel to me.

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It seems we WOULD since were stupid enough to have them come into our country illegally and do work that WE'RE to fuckin' lazy to do rather than ship them back to the crappy cesspit they CAME from.

See, we pay for our laziness ONE damn way or another. We're too lazy to do the work, want cheap labor to do it for us. ... there's a price for that.

A price that isn't WORTH it in my opinion. In many OTHERS opinions too.

Not in the opinion(s) of the scumbags that run America though. The people running America are scumbags and the citizenry is too fat, lazy and ignorant to DO anything about it.

When we wake up and figure things out ...

... who knows. If that'll even HAPPEN.

-rant over
That's bullshit, Captain. The jobs in my area were done by LEGAL Americans until Katrina brought in illegals by the thousands. The LEGAL Americans were then fired by asshole, law breaking employers who hired the illegals at a fraction of the cost they were paying the LEGAL Americans. Why are the illegals so willing to work for slave wages? Because they live 20 to a house and split the rent and send our American dollars back home which does nothing to help our economy. The illegals are clogging our local emergency rooms where they get free care because they can't afford to pay for it. Those that did bring their families are sending their children to our schools on YOURS and MY tax dollars. They've changed the face of my city and I resent it! I keep waiting for the feds to come in and actually do something to the scumbags that hire illegals but so far, nothing's being done and it really pisses me off!
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If they are willing to better themselves with a college education why not help them become citizens and get an education?
Let them go through established channels to become citizens first, and then we can talk about them going to college here...

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Would you prefer they join a gang?
Gang violence being what it is, I wouldn't lose much sleep over it.

But you act as though joining a gang is the only option that have. I would much prefer they employ the option of going back to wherever the fuck they came from...
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Re: Someone Gets It Right...

The reason why we have a problem with illegal immigrants is because the government is too beholden to corporate interests. This is one of the two ways that corporations get around America's relatively progressive labor laws, the other being to move operations overseas.

Mrs. M. is right about the "asshole, law breaking employers," but the government is complicit here, too. The illegal immigrants are here because work needs doing and they need jobs. The straightforward way to put one and two together would be to increase the quotas for legal immigration of workers in agriculture and wherever else illegals are employed, but if that were done, then the employers would have to meet legal labor standards, and they don't want to have to.

Hence the current system, in which the government looks the other way, while employers can get away with just about anything because illegals don't dare report them for fear of being deported.
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