On one hand I frequently hear Republican followers talk about how the there's no accountability in education. While at the same time they talk about how the federal government shouldn't be involved at all in regulating education.

I'm more inclined to believe that the feds have no business in education considering the wording of the 10th Amendment.

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"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

Yes, and we're seeing the results OF "the govt." getting involved in the business of "educating" Americas kids.

As if we NEEDED confirmation that they HAVE no business in this area.

Inefficient paperpushing nimrods can't get done in a week what any average citizen could accomplish in an hour or two.

Umm, the 10th Amendment has essentially been thrown out the window in the past century with the massive increase in the size of the federal government. Sure, it may be unconstitutional, but SCOTUS will never rule on it that way, and no sane lawyer will bring up such a contention. At this point, it's simply bad law.

frankly its a tangle. When the states started accpeting fed,. funds for schooling etc. they opened this door. Do I think NCLB is good ? yes no and maybe....

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Well, the courts have already ruled on that so its moot. If you want to apply the 10th amendment, then it has to apply to everything, and govt would be happily small. However, I dont think the feds should have any role in education. I do think that if we are going to tax and spend on education at the federal level, though, that there should be acountability. Thats a consistent position.

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True enough, but instead of all the state by state exemptions and circumnavigations, I would just asses a nationwide federal exam. That way national accountability would all be at the same standard. FYI I hadn't realized that the 10th amendment had been so thoroughly battered.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

The 10th seems pretty cut and dry to us, that if the constitution didnt give the govt a certain power, they didnt happen. Over the centuries the feds pretty much wiped that out, and the courts backed it up. Politicians are sneaky. Personally I think the states should have total power over education and the feds should stay out of it all together. No taxing, no spending, no regulation.

Of course, I also think my state govt should stay out of it too. Let the cities and communities decide how best to educate their children. And beyond that, my children will never be educated by the govt. I may still have to pay for the govt to educate everyone elses children, but I still have control over my own at least.

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Elminate all taxes on income and replace with a national sales tax.