The military isn't there to make everyone feel 'included' or that they are 'accepted'; the military is there to fight and win wars. If a unit as a whole (or a majority) has a problem with one of their members because of his race (even though it is VERY unlikely in today's society, I would even say impossible), then yes, by all means, get rid of that person.

Unfortunately, our society is not as accepting of homosexuals as they are of other races yet. Give it time and we will probably see a change in that attitude.

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I just think girls have more of a tendancy to be bi-sexual, I would highly doubt the majority of the ones outed are lesbians but I'm sure they are bi-sexual.

Liberalism has created a huge female bi-sexual craze.

I'm 28 so I see it when I go out to the bars, hell I have had my fun with 2 chicks before.

The thing is I dont see it as something thats "awsome or cool" like liberalsim has made it out to be.

Liberals promote this stuff and dumb chicks but in to it and screw other girls because they want attention.

I dont even think the majority of girls who claim they are bi-sexual are truely bi-sexual. I think they just want the attention they get from the guys.

I agree with you tho, I think manish-lesbians do tend to join the military or do guy stuff.

lets not forget there are plenty of straight tom-boy girls too, I have been "seeing" a bombshell tom-boy for a few weeks now, shes awsome and totally straight and really hot too.. shes just really into sports and isnt into dressing like a hooch.

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Of course not. It just is, same as heterosexuality or homosexuality.

Hey, its a man thing, guys dont do that and females want to turn on guys with that type of behavior.

Like I have said, I have had my fun with a few chicks and a few chicks. I'm not playing Mr. Evagelical over here, I just notice common trends.

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I wasn't accusing you of playing Mr. Evagelical. Sorry if I offended you. Just making a point, albeit a rather pedantic one.

2 of the best Marines I have ever known were gay. Everyone in the platoon knew they were gay. No one cared. They kept that part of their lives to themselves.

I knew a Navy dental tech that was flaming, even in uniform. He was very good at his job, and his command overlooked it.

On the flip side, I used to have a shitty Marine in my platoon. He was gay as anything also. We knew it, but it was not the factor behind him being a shitty Marine. He also kept that part of his life to himself.

People being gay really isn't that big of a deal to most enlisted guys. It seems the Officers, especially the super religious ones, are the guys that have the problem with it, for the most part.

Wow...Thanks for your honesty, and I'm sorry I tried to intimidate you by bringing up race.

No worries.

As you have seen from personal examples in this thread, most military service members who are gay are smart about it. They keep it to themselves and do not let it effect their work. That is the beauty of don't ask don't tell. Don't make it an issue and it won't be an issue. Like Steve and Some Marine, I also served with a guy who we all were pretty sure was gay. He didn't make it an issue by giving proof that he was, so we let it go. He was smart and, if he really was gay, didn't get caught. The problem arises when gays or lesbians are too open about it. That is when it starts to negatively affect units.

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Yes, but there's also the question of why anyone should keep quiet about their relationships. There's nothing wrong about homosexuality. If there was a similar restriction on heterosexuals about their realtionships and families (not a bad idea, IMO) that would be fine.

That is a whole different debate. That being said, in today's society homosexuality isn't looked favorably upon. Give it time and those attitudes will change.

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I know. I love how in America so many men think that "gayness" is a temptation you must simply avoid.

Like I've said all along, if you care so much about someone else being or not being gay, it's obvious that you are gay.

Wow, that's about the dumbest thing I've read in quite some time.

Yeah, straight girls make out and have sex with each other to get attention.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

And it's because of "liberalism". Sure.

And the one's with the biggest problems with it are always gay.

Don't ask/Don't Tell is fucking ridiculous.

Win wars, respect each others differences, and grow up already, it's 2008.

don't ask, don't tell works. Plain and simple.

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Thank you for making the laziest, most idiotic, and downright logically flawed (and untrue, too, for that matter) "argument" the pro-homo crowd is almost guaranteed to throw into mix every time, eventually!

Ha ha!

"If you can't stand homosexuality, you're a homo."

ROFL!

You watch too much Law & Order - where the leftist writers do all they can to perpetuate the idea that if somebody objects to something it cannot possibly be for any reason other than that they secretly endorse/participate in it.

Not to mention...for any morons out there tempted to use that banality in defense of faggotism - by suggesting that anti-homo folks are fags, you're also implying that faggotism is a choice (which you also argue against). I'm as anti-homosexuality as you can get, but nothing's ever gone in through my out door.

Gay Night at the Enlisted Club?

I'd sooner join a militia in Montana than an armed forces that condoned that sort of bullshit.

(And for you gay-is-the-new-black dopes, yes, there was [is?] a de-facto "black night" at the enlisted clubs with which I was familiar).

There is plenty wrong with homosexuality.

Incidentally, has anybody happened to run across the article I requested earlier? The one profiling some homo booted from the service who also happened to be shitty at their job?

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