More lesbians discharged in 2007 under don't ask/don't tell policy than gay guys.

I love when the liberal media pretends to be mystified. To wit, the final line of the article: "Pentagon officials could not explain why the numbers for women increased last year."

Hmm...if this were any given conservative agenda item, they'd speculate to hell and back as to the "why's" of it all.

How could the basic concept escape them - that dyke-ish chicks are more likely to join the military than girlie dudes? How is it not even worth mentioning as a possibility? Oh, that's right, don't want to upset the faggots...I forgot that was the overriding policy.

What's next? Shock and awe because consumer reporting shows a disproportionate number of double-ended-dildo purchases among female softball players? No way!

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Well, at least discrimination applies to both genders.

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BTW, happy belated birthday to turkey baster boy Samuel David Cheney, born on 5/23/07.

That kid barely stands a chance. Oh, well. At least he'll have plenty of $$$ to mitigate the misery.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Currently the don't ask / don't tell policy is under a lot of criticism by civil rights groups and GLBT advocates. I think a rising disparity for gay women is likely due to the big stir right now over sex discrimination in the military. Historically don't ask / don't tell was primarily intended as a workaround for gay men to serve because the majority of soldiers are still male. After it was adopted a surge of male homosexuals joined the military, probably seen as a triumph for the gay community. Today it has less of a disproportionate effect for men and probably explains how the negative affects we are seeing now is more likely to take its toll on females.

Look at the case of Margaret Witt, a decorated Air Force nurse who was discharged after speculations about her sexuality surfaced (she was in fact a lesbian). The primary criticism for don't ask don't tell is while it makes it easy for homosexuals to get in the military, they receive few or no protections from discrimination and discharge once evidence has surfaced that they are gay. That is what happened with Major Witt although her performance in hostile situations was exemplary. The whole policy needs to be revamped, to place more focus on the achievements of service members and proof that sexual orientation doesn't make you any less or more capable of those achievements.

Yeah. Revamp it. Switch from "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" to "We Ask/You Answer 'Straight' or Take a Walk/If We Find Out You Lied Later You Go to Leavenworth".

Problem solved.

Job performance has nothing to do with it.

I'd love to hear the first story about some homo getting bounced out of the service where the faggot groups admit, "But Private Johnson was a sub-standard soldier." Nope. All the fucking fudgepackers are apparently Audie Murphy incarnate!

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Criticism by those who have no experience or frame of reference, IMO. I support don't ask/don't tell.

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I had a guy who worked for me during Desert Storm. We were pretty damn sure the guy was a pillow-biter.

He was also a 4.0 sailor.

His uniform was always immaculate, I never needed to tell him to shave or get a haircut, and I never had to tell him to do something more than once. He was the best Sonar operator I had. He was qualified, as an E-4, as CIC Supervisor. Give him an order, and I knew it would get done, and it would get done, correctly, the first time.

When it came to a firefight, I had no reservations about this guy doing what needed to be done. Not a one.

We didn't ask, and he didn't tell. We were pretty damn sure, though. Even still, I think the lowest mark I ever gave him on an eval was 3.8. Had he been discharged for being gay, it would have been quite a measurable loss to our division and the ship...

Good thing he, you, and your command were mature about it. Don't ask, don't tell works.

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That is excellent. I have also talked about - on here, in the past - the two YN's (or PN's...can't remember) on my ship who everybody was 99% sure were gay. They kept it under wraps, did their jobs, probably got very good EVAL scores, etc... Still didn't stop the jokes when their office door was locked, inexplicably, at strange times.

This really doesn't address the absurdity that I pointed out: From what I can tell every homo that was given the boot was at least a 4.0 serviceperson...if not on the CMoH shortlist. I mean, seriously, where is that one article talking about a homo getting shown the door that doesn't make mention of their "superior" performance?

Is that just another homosexual stereotype (read: truism)? They like Judy Garland, have a good sense of fashion, and are outstanding in a military capacity?

If that truly is the case...well then, hell's bells, recruit them based upon that characteristic, I say! But, as is always the case with shit like this, it is nothing but selective representation for the purpose of spreading propaganda.

Maybe the would-be inferior servicepeople who are homos never make it out of bootcamp - being idiotic enough to get pinched early. Kinda like those two nimrods from a neighboring bootcamp company in Great Mistakes that got caught by the night watch pumping each other in the head. Had they somehow survived boot, perhaps they'd have eventually risen to be the first documented cases of homos in the military that sucked at their jobs, among other things.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Don't ask/Don't tell does seem to work very well at placating the insecurity of fools.

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Why is it each time you say the word "homo" I feel like punching myself in the face?

I'm sure recruiters and recruit processing personnel are service people who've been in leadership positions. If they've seen firsthand that homosexuality does not affect quality of work (personally I think straight and gay people are roughly equal in terms of proportion of slackers and achievers) then to ask a potential recruit their sexual orientation is probably something they only do because they're required due to this silly regulation. If the military doesn't really want to know then why does it really matter? So why ask? There's neither any proof that homosexuality somehow makes a person inherently better at their jobs nor any worse than the majority of the military.

Actually: overall in jobs (military and civilian) that require close attention to detail and a knack for creativity it's been shown that homosexuals typically outperform their straight counterparts. I think it's due to the fact that unlike sex, age and race, it is something that can be well concealed - so there is a unique incentive to achieve because once people around you see that you are a top performer that gives you lots of opportunity to no longer hide who you are because you've already earned peoples respect.

Because that gives them legal recourse to kick someone who desides to be openly gay out.

Could you give me a link to the study that supports this in a military setting?

That being said, I could give a shit less if a homosexual is amazing at their job. If their sexuality negetively effects unit cohesion then they are gone. That is why we have don't ask, don't tell.

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Bigotry shouldn't be indulged. Would you say that you don't care how amazing, say, a black person is at their job, that if the group has a problem with their race then they should be fired?