Ah, the terrorists who planned the 9/11 attacks are innocent to you. (This has little to do with Iraq, though.)

Or, you are simply demonstrating your lack of comprehension of Cthultu321's point.

Either way, it's good to know.

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How can any rational person actually be "pro-war"? If a war is absolutely necessary and justified, of course. But being "pro-war" isn't a wedge issue, right? It's not a calling card I hope.

I agree with this statement. Terrorists ought to be hunted down, captured and killed. However, our good intentions have not resulted in a very bright strategy for achieving those ends. We need to follow the money, recruit allies who are fluent at every aspect of the muslim culture, and probably not use the military since terrorists go into hiding and all we're left doing is trading fire with innocent civilians who've become freedom fighters since they were not terrorists before we ever got there. It is a distinction that is easy to make, but the folks who believe using the military for this purpose seem to confuse this point.

Therefore, I'll use empathy. If 12 people from Texas were to hijack three planes and crash them into.......I dunno......France, and France were to send a military force to Texas in order to get "terrorists", the intention is fair, but if some of the people in Texas who had nothing to do with the terrorist act on France were to pick up arms against the occupying force and the French were to just call them all "terrorists" would that be a fair assessment? Of course not.

Anyway, the man who drove his truck through the peace protest, not to be confused with the man who mistook his wife for a hat, didn't actually attempt to drive through them; he did drive through them, yes?

I hate to break this to you, sweetheart, but one instance doesn't constitute a "model". Plus, by saying that his actions actually fit such a model, it suggests that the model already exists...

It sort of fits the model of a "dumb warrior" who will attack the wrong people though.

I know this is a lame swipe at Bush.

I also know that you're completely unaware of the fact that Bush is not a warrior...

Although, to be fair, an awful lot of innocent people of many nationalities have died as a result of this war, and we may not even have gotten very many of the guilty. Which is fairly depressing.

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(I doubt that this was the counterpoint that was made, if there was one to be made at all.) But, yes, it is depressing. War is generally depressing for those who don't have sociopathic tendencies. That's why I usually object to the term "pro war".

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

According to the article he had to leave the road to drive through them, not that anyone has the right to deliberately hit pedestrians regardless.

One really can't pass off vehicular assult as free speech. If that were true, then it would violate my right to free speech if I couldn't deck someone who dresses in a way I don't like.

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"The only abnormality is the incapacity to love"
-Anias Nin

Although decking someone for poor taste in clothes is an admirable cause, I'd like to deck a few with piss-poor grammar, too (simple colloquial grammar mistakes don't bug me at all).

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

You're using a pretty broad brush there...care to rethink???

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If what he did is "free speech" than if I kneecapped the bastard I'd be exercising MY right of free speech.

Free expression, actually. But that's covered, isn't it?

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Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.

Greetings and Felicitations,

I understand. There really does need to be a change of terminology. I don't care for the term anti-war, either. I am not anti-war. I am pro-peace. If you are anti-war then you are simply protesting a particular action instead of seeking to support peace as a way of life.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

PS. I just thought of something. We had better be careful. We wouldn't want to be accused of trying to redefine a word.

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That's a completely different situation from the one I was describing. If you can't see that, there's a problem.

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All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
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I caught that. I was just pointing out a scenario(which I've found myself in) where it is acceptable to drive through a crowd. (I made it a point to give people ample time to get out of my way at the expense of four windows and body damage.)

One really can't pass off vehicular assult as free speech. If that were true, then it would violate my right to free speech if I couldn't deck someone who dresses in a way I don't like.[/quote]

I wasn't saying free speech. I was saying self defense.

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During the journey we commonly forget its goal. Almost every profession is chosen as a means to an end but continued as an end in itself. Forgetting our objectives is the most frequent act of stupidity.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Wanderer and his Shadow

All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist

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