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Old 07-05-2008
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Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

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A Ramona man who admits he drove through an anti-war demonstration, crunching signs and causing protestors to scatter, says he can't understand why he doesn't have a First Amendment right to protest that way.
Ramona Man Defends his Right to Drive Pickup Through Anti-War Protest

Where does the first amemdment end? I have always heard the statement that your rights stop at the end of my nose. Would this qualify or not?

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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

Because he has the right to say what he wants, but not destroy other people's property/hurt people?

Duh?
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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

Yeah, that's pretty ignorant.

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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

I don't know. Were the protesters preventing him from driving down the street? If so, I'd say he was well within his rights.
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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

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I don't know. Were the protesters preventing him from driving down the street? If so, I'd say he was well within his rights.
So this hit and run wasn't a hit and run after all - it was just some driver using his 'right' to drive down the street unprevented?
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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

I don't think preventing others from their rights is a right at all. But this does fit the model of a pro-war activist, violence and all...
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Re: Man Attempts to Drive Truck Through Peace Protesters

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Ramona Man Defends his Right to Drive Pickup Through Anti-War Protest

Where does the first amemdment end? I have always heard the statement that your rights stop at the end of my nose. Would this qualify or not?

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
Wow, I hadn't heard about this, and it's only 20 minutes up the road from me. Then again, I haven't had the news on today...
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I don't think preventing others from their rights is a right at all. But this does fit the model of a pro-war activist, violence and all...
What "model" are you talking about?
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I don't think preventing others from their rights is a right at all. But this does fit the model of a pro-war activist, violence and all...
Right, because antiwar protesters are incapable of violence.
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What "model" are you talking about?
The model of being pro-killing and death and destruction and violence.
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The model of being pro-killing and death and destruction and violence.
You said "pro-war activist". That suggests some type of protester (as would the phrase "anti=war activist), and that such a protester would use violence and, death and destruction in support of their cause.

Do you have examples of this happening?
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The model of being pro-killing and death and destruction and violence.
I'm against the war too, but I think most pro-war folks genuinely believe that Iraq was complicit in 9/11, and thus deserving of retribution. I disagree with this, but I share their wish to hunt down and tear to shreds those who kill innocent Americans, and I don't see that that's a murderous viewpoint.
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You said "pro-war activist". That suggests some type of protester (as would the phrase "anti=war activist), and that such a protester would use violence and, death and destruction in support of their cause.

Do you have examples of this happening?
This thread is the example. This guy was pissed off at the anti war activists because he's pro war right? So he used the violent act of driving through the crowd. He claims it's his right to free speech to do so. It seems like the perfect way for a pro war activist to act.
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I'm against the war too, but I think most pro-war folks genuinely believe that Iraq was complicit in 9/11, and thus deserving of retribution. I disagree with this, but I share their wish to hunt down and tear to shreds those who kill innocent Americans, and I don't see that that's a murderous viewpoint.
Why would anyone still believe those lies?

I think it is a murderous viewpoint to believe lies and want hunt down and tear to shreds innocent people.

Yes, I'm pretty sure it is.
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Why would anyone still believe those lies?

I think it is a murderous viewpoint to believe lies and want hunt down and tear to shreds innocent people.

Yes, I'm pretty sure it is.
I agree that it's a murderous viewpoint to want to hunt down and tear to shreds innocent people. I do however believe that that's what we should do to those who kill innocent Americans, and is a viewpoint I share with pro-war folks, though they happen to be woefully misdirected.
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