Yet again the ACLU proves itself an internal enemy of America. They're like a creeping cancer organization with law degrees. They're using and manipulating our society (all of US) without many of us being aware of what they're doing. Due to apathy and ignorance I think.





The ACLU is arguing before a federal appeals court that the United States is funding AIDS prevention unconstitutionally. Specifically, they argue that having a ban on funds to organizations that promote commercial sex work inhibits free speech.


It is true that advocating the legalization of prostitution is free speech. That doesn’t mean that such speech needs to be funded by the government.



I guess according to the the ACLU it does ?


More importantly though is that the advocacy for legalized prostitution and AIDS prevention are mutually exclusive. One cannot support the reduction of AIDS infections and support legal prostitution at the same time. Prostitution remains one of the leading vectors for AIDS infection. This is true in the case of both legal and illegal prostitution.


The redefinition of prostitution as “commercial sex work” is just an attempt to legitimize sex trafficking. It should come as no surprise the ACLU and Planned Parenthood have signed on. While both groups are considered “pro-woman”, it is odd that they support an industry of flagrant abuse of women.


The argument for legalization goes something like this. Prostitution will happen anyway but legalization and regulation will help stem the abuses. The argument has 50,000 foot appeal. Using the same logic, slavery (which still exists in many places) should be legalized so underground slaves can be given some measure of human rights. The fact that the ACLU and the bevy of left-wing international groups don’t argue for the legalization of slavery shows the logical inconsistency of their position.

The ACLU is Fighting for the Trafficking of Women Worldwide

I was about to accuse you of creating a grossly misleading title when I noticed that you took it straight from the "part time pundit" that you were quoting. So, I guess he is the one that is trying to mislead.

Don't get me wrong - I think that this is a rather stupid thing for the ACLU to fight over. That said, this makes it sound like the ACLU is in court lobbying for legalized prostitution or even "trafficking", which is not at all true.

The ACLU is in court, suggesting that funding for the prevention of AIDS should not be limited only to groups that condemn prostitution. That is to say, if there is a group doing AIDS prevention work that, for some reason, supports prostitution, they shouldn't be restricted from receiving money.

Personally, I don't really understand why either argument is worth the bother. I can't imagine that there are a vast cross-section of groups who actually work to prevent AIDS and who also believe that prostitution is a good idea.

But the title is ludicrous. If I were going to write a critique of the article, I would title it:

John Bambenek Fighting to Spread AIDS

And, I'd be just as accurate as he was.

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It is true that advocating the legalization of prostitution is free speech. That doesn’t mean that such speech needs to be funded by the government.


Does it ?

That, I think is the problem people would have with this. Are we supposed to have the govt. fund ANY/every kind of free speech ?

I would say that there is no need to have the government fund much of anything, much less organizations promoting prostitution. I think the only reason that this isn't a no-brainer is that these organizations are (apparently) doing some good by fighting the spread of AIDS.

So, the question isn't whether you're funding their free speech, but rather whether you're funding their charity work in spite of the things that they happen to say.

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IMO....Whether groups oppose or support prostitution shouldn't matter....Prevention of aids is a serious matter.

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So you'd support a group that supported prostitution even though you know that prostitution is a vector FOR the spread of aids ?

Does that make sense ?

I mean I understand that aids is an unpleasant thing.

There are things to not DO to help prevent aids. One of those things is NOT supporting prostitution.

The ACLU isn't making sense at ALL anymore. This is simple common sense.

Well, I would imagine that the reason a group in such a position might support legalized prostitution is because they think that this would allow for greater measures to be taken preventing hookers from spreading AIDS.

Let me flip the question around on you - you would oppose funding for fighting a disease because some members of the organization support the legalization of prostitution?

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That seems like a good plan/idea and all. Until you think about how getting the govt. involved in almost ANYTHING only causes the problem it was supposed to solve grow.

Yes. See above sentence. The govt. will screw this up and make the problem worse as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow.

Unfortunately, prostitution won’t go away. It “is” the oldest profession and we’ll never be able to stop it.
Because it won’t go away, I see no reason for aids prevention funding not to be available.

The problem will be, “as you said” , that the control of the funding will be screwed up and people will receive “free money” when they shouldn’t.

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Thane;883663]So you'd support a group that supported prostitution even though you know that prostitution is a vector FOR the spread of aids ?

Does that make sense ? YEP and YEP

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There are things to not DO to help prevent aids. One of those things is NOT supporting prostitution.


. This is simple common sense.[/QUOTE] Nope, you are missing the point, prostitution does not promote aids any more that married promisious sex. Would you checK out the family members to find out if they were practicing safe sex before allowing them to be funded or whatever??????

This is an emotional reaction.
I do not buy for a minute that ACLU has an initiative to traffic women.
Cmon, cant anyone say stuff without putting this emotion laden spasm to it?
In the media, we call that propaganda. Or, trying to sell something.
I'm not sold. sorry.

Sure I'd support it. Sure it makes sense. We support blood transfusions though they also may be considered to be a "vector for the spread of aids"?

Or should we not support blood transfusions either?

I thought it was a case involving digital angel.
I do agree that there is a level of integrity the Government needs to abide by.
Right and wrong does exist, regardless of the few who believe it to be a matter of opinion.

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