Politicians should not use religion to insulate themselves from criticism
"I am a great admirer of our founding charter and its resolve to prevent theocracies from forming and its resolve to prevent disruptive strains of fundamentalism from taking root in this country. I think there is an enormous danger on the part of public figures to rationalize or justify their actions by claiming God’s mandate. I don’t think it’s healthy for public figures to wear religion on their sleeve as a means to insulate themselves from criticism, or dialogue with people who disagree with them.

Source: Chicago Sun-Times, “I have a deep faith” Apr 5, 2004

A bit more on the lies and sophistry "gays" use to argue in support of perverted sexual behaviour.

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Redeeming the Rainbow pgs. 104 - 108 Scott Lively

Defeating “gay” arguments, however, depends upon asserting the plain truth about homosexuality from the start. If you fail to challenge the presuppositions of the “gay” position, you will forever be at a disadvantage in opposing the many goals of the “gay” agenda. Stand firmly on the truth that homosexuality is an objectively disordered condition deserving of social disapproval because it spreads disease and dysfunction. You will be aggressively attacked for this position, because your opponents know that it is the only position from which you can successfully defeat all of their arguments. You would take less heat if you sought some point of compromise, but you would trade away most of your moral and persuasive authority in the process.


The truth about homosexuality is self-evident. Self-evident truths are not taught, they are revealed. Helping people overcome “gay” sophistry does not require teaching them new facts and figures or raising their level of intellectual sophistication. On the contrary, it requires a clearing away of the misinformation that obscures the simple reality of things.


The heart of “gay” sophistry is the redefinition of homosexuality as a state of being and not a form of sexual behavior. This allows the “gay” movement to define homosexuals as a civil rights minority comparable to African-Americans and other groups whose minority status is based on truly immutable characteristics. In turn, this allows the “gay” movement to inherit and exploit all of the legal, political and social gains of the civil rights movement for its own ends. Sexual orientation theory is the vehicle for “selling” the idea of homosexuality as normal and immutable. It creates a context in which sexuality can be divorced from physiology. Only by making the design and function of the human body irrelevant can “gay” strategists avoid otherwise self-evident truths about homosexuality.


Tolerance means putting up with someone or something you don’t like in order to serve the greater good of preserving civility. Tolerance is therefore an essential virtue in a diverse society. In the “gay” lexicon, however, tolerance means unconditional acceptance of homosexuality. Anyone who disapproves of homosexual conduct is labeled intolerant, even those who treat self-defined “gays” with the utmost courtesy and respect. Abuse of language is a dangerous thing. The misuse of the term tolerance is a good example. For every person that gives in to political correctness to avoid being considered
intolerant, there is another whose strong disapproval of homosexuality makes him or her willing to be considered intolerant. The latter may even begin to see intolerance as a virtue, since it appears necessary to be intolerant to stop the legitimization of sexual perversion. This fosters a climate in which intolerance against legitimate minorities can be more easily justified. As the “gays” have proved, many people just don’t think clearly enough to understand why intolerance of race and intolerance of perversion are different. This confusion serves the racists as easily as it serves the“gays.”


As a rhetorical weapon, homophobia is unequaled. It serves first to define anyone who opposes the legitimization of homosexuality as a hate-filled bigot. Homosexual activists publicly associate this label with violent “gay bashers” and hateful fanatics. When they use the term they want people to think about the killers of Matthew Shepard, but in conventional practice they include every man, woman and child who believes homosexuality is abnormal or wrong. The way to expose this factis to challenge the advocates of the “gay” position to state the difference between homophobia and non-homophobic opposition to homosexuality. They will reveal that they accept no opposition to their agenda as legitimate.


Secondly, the term defines opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. “Gay” activists take special delight in this since it was scant decades ago that homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatry (the listing was removed by the political maneuvering of homosexual activists in a 1973 vote of the members of the American Psychiatric Association) Thirdly, the term can be used as the semantic equivalent of “racist,” helping the “gay” movement further indoctrinate the public with the notion that opposition to homosexuality is equivalent to prejudice against racial minorities. Collectively, these strategic applications of the word “homophobia” serve to intimidate many opponents into silence. When any expression of opposition to homosexuality draws the accusation that one is a mentally-ill bigot equivalent to a racist, few people will venture public opposition.


In an enlightened society there can be no rational basis for discrimination on criteria such as race, skin color or ethnicity. However, as with multi-culturalism, the introduction of morally significant criteria changes the analysis of discrimination. Discrimination against harmful conduct is entirely rational, and in many cases necessary.


discrimination has been useful to “gay” activists because the public is deeply conditioned to associate this term only with prejudice, especially racial prejudice. The solution is to add the qualifier “rational” or “irrational” to discrimination whenever one uses the term. At minimum this tactic causes the hearer to consider the significance of the qualifier. It also sets the stage for a discussion about the standard for determining what is rational vs. irrational discrimination.


Diversity is a code word for the political doctrine of multiculturalism.By itself it means only “the variety of things,” but as used by the homosexual movement “diversity” is a moral statement about the way society ought to be: a harmonious social pluralism in which every culture is honored for its contribution to the whole. Thus feel-good emotionalism is harnessed to obscure deeply flawed reasoning. Multiculturalism, meaning the equality of cultures in a pluralistic society, is a valid concept if culture is defined by morally neutral criteria. Society should pursue civic equality in areas such as race, ethnic heritage and religion. But cultural practices are not morally neutral. Few of us would agree that the cultures of Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, and Taliban-ruled Afghanistan are the equals of American culture with respect to the deeds they have perpetrated. The “culture” of homosexuality – a way of life rooted in the practice of sodomy – is not equal to the inherited family-based cultures of African-Americans, Asian-Americans or Arab-Americans. There is no comparison between a shared system of values, beliefs and traditions passed down through generations of a group of people bound by genetic and/or religious similarities, and a set of compulsive sexual/emotional behaviors practiced by a group of random individuals who define themselves as a community based on this practice alone. The effective response to a champion of “diversity” is to focus on the definition of multiculturalism and to demand to know the standard for inclusion.

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ah yes the "War on Christianity" thread.

thank you captain for continuing to bring this thread up. i get excited every time i see it pop up in my subscribed threads.

also congratulations on quoting the same piece of work over 100 times in one thread. have you posted the entire book yet?

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bg shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h!! don't encourage him. it only makes it worse

This is kinda getting old. Why not create a thread on Obama's attack on Christianity or some other crackpot theory.

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You raaannng?

Obama's attacks on Christianity are now documented, the book is for sale at Barnes and Noble:

Barack Obama & Larry Sinclair, Lawrence W Sinclair, Book - Barnes & Noble



A short excerpt:

The biggest untold story of the 2008 U.S. Presidential Election... Finally, the no-holds-barred, 100% true story of Barack Obama's use and sale of cocaine; his homosexual affairs and the December 23, 2007 murder of Barack Obama's former lover and choir director of Obama's Chicago church of 20 years, Donald Young, just days before the 2008 Iowa Caucus.

A true attack on Christianity and decency indeed, you betcha'.

Because this isn't a "crackpot theory."

It's very obvious what's going on.

Many of us don't give a damn about it.

Many of us do.

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You're like the Che Guevara of meddlesexuality.

Take the power BACK!!!!

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I see. So it's me that's being "meddlesome" is it ? ?

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So, what is it about Christianity that makes people so insecure?

There's nothing about Christianity that "makes people so insecure."

Where are you getting that ?

What is it about opposing a destructive sexual practice that makes Christians "insecure" ?

Lets look at something from a previous post shall we:



Secondly, the term defines opposition to homosexuality as a mental illness. “Gay” activists take special delight in this since it was scant decades ago that homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Psychiatry (the listing was removed by the political maneuvering of homosexual activists in a 1973 vote of the members of the American Psychiatric Association) Thirdly, the term can be used as the semantic equivalent of “racist,” helping the “gay” movement further indoctrinate the public with the notion that opposition to homosexuality is equivalent to prejudice against racial minorities. Collectively, these strategic applications of the word “homophobia” serve to intimidate many opponents into silence. When any expression of opposition to homosexuality draws the accusation that one is a mentally-ill bigot equivalent to a racist, few people will venture public opposition.

From this post:

Fighting Back

So Christians are at the very least "insecure" right LOL

Ridiculous.

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dude that "book" is a ridiculous piece of propaganda. you can't use it as a factual source. enough.

to Captain Trips: Usually when people use words like "indoctrinate," it's usually followed by some insane theory that one group is trying to take over the mass population. Never in my life have I been approached by a homosexual and asked to join him/her. I do agree with some of what you say. The word "homophobia" is (over)used to silence people opposed to gay rights (and shouldn't be), and the gay movement is equivocated to the civil right's movement.

to wrxsti: It's about time we exposed Obama for the indecent, homosexual, murdering, gay-bashing, cocaine-using, crack-addicted, adultering, Muslim immigrant that he is

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Liberals hate Christians and want to destroy Christianity because they see Christian morals and ethics as a stone wall in the advancement of their immoral philosophy.

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I've definitely been approached by christians (in addition to Mormons) on several dozen occasions, which is an open attempt by a total stranger to change my life in ways I don't want.

I've never been approached by a gay person for any reason much less attempting me to convert to gaydom.

Who is at war with whom?

Christians are insecure. They need an all powerful invisible friend to help them get through the day and through life. Strangely, thats not enough and they try to get other people to make up an invisible friend of their own.