I actually said liberals hate Christianity, I didn't say gays. I used gay marriage as a typical example of liberal contempt for Christianity.

I also said it wasn't all about sex preference either.

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Yes, I'm aware of that. Otherwise you would have written 'democrats', I assume.Sure, but so what? None of that even remotely supports your contention that Liberals hate Christians and want to destroy Christianity because they see Christian morals and ethics as a stone wall in the advancement of their immoral philosophy.

You have yet to actually supoort that statement.Nor have you shown in the least that:

A. What you've listed are 'ideals'.
B. That somehow appealing the possible majorities of each category makes them definitive or even relevant.

And now you're changing your tune from 'they want to destroy Christianity' to 'they have dissent for Christianity'.

Actually, you said this:

Clearly, you were speaking to what you believe is some obsession that gays have with Christians.

Captain Trips is an uber-Christian. If you search his posts, you'll see that an enormous number of them deal with gays; what they do, what they want, and why he believes it threatens Christianity.

The point being, again, that I think you would be hard-pressed to find even half as many threads, started by gays, which are critical of Christians, which disproves your theory about gays being overly concerned with Christians...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Is or Isn't traditional Christian values a road block in the advancement of progressive liberalism?

If that's not the case then "crazy Christian" and "neocon" wouldnt be used so liberally by the left.

Are you trying to tell me those who make it their goal in life to destroy Christianity are conservatives or republicans?

No one can deny their is a moving force in this nation to do away with Christianity - That I can easily prove to you.

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Gays are obsessed with traditional Christianity and its values because they see Christianity as a road block on their mission of acceptance.

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No, what I'm telling you is that you haven't proven or substantiated anything in regards to your contention about the destruction of Christianity. I would have thought that would be clear by now.Then why haven't you?

And, if the posting history of members here is even only a slight indication, then you're wrong.

Christians, as is evidence in the pages of USPOL, are obsessed with gays because they believe gays somehow "threaten" them.

Honestly, all you have to do is look at posting histories. CT, one of the more prolific, if not over-the-top Christian posters here, is on a campaign to rid the world of gays.

I just don't see gays trying to rid the world of Christians.

If you do, then I would suggest an optometrist...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

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Go slew through those 45 million hits on Christian dissent and then tell me those folks are conservatives or republicans.

I can tell you right now their are NO conservatives that have dissent for Christian values.

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So, no, you can't actually prove it to me, nor are you interested in backing up or otherwise supporting your original contention.

Are you refuting that gays don't see Christianity as a road block to their "utopia?"

Yes or no.

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I just gave you 45 million pages of Christian dissent, surely the majority of those people have political opinions and label them selves liberal or conservative.

Your basically telling me liberals have no objection to traditional Christian values and I'm telling you thats poppycock to the fullest extent.

Do you really think I woke up one day and decided that liberals hated traditional Christianity?

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No, that's not what I'm saying to you in the least, so kindly don't pretend that it is.

What I'm telling you is you haven't supported your original contention. Whatsoever. And again, you've gone from 'destruction' to 'dissent'.

So basically your telling me you agree with me but you want me to find you proof your satisfied with?

I think your just backed in the corner.

This is one of those "prove to me blue is blue " arguments on your part despite the 45 million examples I gave you of blue.

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I'm agreeing with you? Where did you get that idea? Proof? You haven't really supplied any.I think you'd better look again.Doing the same thing, I can prove to you that conservatives are child molesters.

See where your little game ends up?

Now then, instead of listing off 45 million web hits that might or might not prove anything when you say "I can prove it to you", how about you actually making a case for it?

If you're not interested in that, just say so and stop wasting my time.

I think you've got it wrong there, and it's actually the other way around. Many Christians - actually I'll qualify that: many Christian religious leaders - are obsessed with homosexuality, and seem to use sex and sexuality as a recruitment tool. As a gay man I really couldn't give a rats about the Church, except that almost everywhere I look in modern society I see a Church leader of some description telling me how evil I apparently am, etc.