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I'm not talking about democrats here, I'm talking about progressive liberals and liberals.

Now, you could say that the consensus among liberals is that gay marriage should be legal, correct?

You could say that the majority of traditional Christian sects only recognize marriage between a man and a woman right?

You could say the majority of liberals embrace feminism right?

You can also say that a lot of Christians value traditional values, correct?

Now, I'm not going to speak for everyone, I'm only taking about a consensus here.

Liberal and Christian ideals contradict one another so I don't see how anyone can possibly say liberals DONT have dissent for Christianity.

Does this apply to liberal Christians? You know, liberal churches and the like?
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And our laws are inspired by judaeo-christian law. Why you think the liberals go apes shit anytime they see the Ten Commandments?
Our laws are based on Enlightenment Values.
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You just dismissed the slippery slope..

You just cant dismiss something because you cant argue against it. That's not how it works.

Are you really going to tell me that people would not use gay marriage as precedent to marry their cars, pets, trees, selves etc if gay marriage was legalized?

Their are plenty of weird fetishes and you cant deny that so who are you to say what people would do and wouldn't?

Logic states that some people would do it just because they can and I'm not even talking about the nuts that actually have feelings for weird things.
Using that slippery slope argument of yours, and taking it to its natural conclusion, then we should abolish heterosexual marriage, since the others that have the urge to marry their pets would want the same legal rights.

The slippery slope argument is not logical because it rests on faulty assumptions, or ends with faulty conclusions. You can't build a rational, coherent, and valid argument based on fallacies.
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Then they aren't true traditional Christians or true republicans.
well you said conservative not republican. last time i checked republicans and conservatives didn't have to be christian or accept christianity at all.

also i don't think you get to be the authority on what is and what isn't "true" christianity or conservatism.
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