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Greetings and Felicitations,

Did you seriously just respond to a logical point with an ad hominem? A faker is a liar and, therefore, you are calling me a liar. I hate to tell you this but I don't believe in lying. If you want to know more you can learn about me here:

http://timesnews.net/user_profile.php?profile=11657

David Neely - LinkedIn

As you can see unlike some people I don't hide my identity behind fake names and internet avatars.

Care to make the same effort Thane/Captain Trips.

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Here are your recent gems:

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Anyone who equates pedophilia and homosexuality with each other is a moron.

It is only the moronic people like OneNewsNow and Michele Malkin that think homosexuality and pedophilia are synonymous.

However, I don't expect a simple thing like logic and reason to enter your brain at all.

Any news source that equates two things that don't equal each other is run by morons. Unlike a lot of people if I think something is stupid I am not going to pretend its not just to make you feel better. Thinking homosexuality and pedophilia are, in any way, connected then you are at best ignorant and at worse being willfully stupid especially since there is absolutely no logical connection between the two.


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And you're going to complain about being called a faker because of your opening and closing statements when you're anything but polite ?

I've clearly shown the connection between "gay" and child molesting. You don't see it because you don't want to see it.
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Absolutely not. However, I refuse to let bad logic, crappy reasoning, intentional misdirection and misrepresentation stand when I can do something about it. I know that I cannot change peoples minds about things but I see my job as presenting the information and logical counter-points so that people will know the actuality.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

So we have something in common at least I also refuse to let bad logic, crappy reasoning, intentional misdirection and misrepresentation stand when I can do something about it. I know that I cannot change peoples minds about things but I see my job as presenting the information and logical counter-points so that people will know the actuality.
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And you're going to complain about being called a faker because of your opening and closing statements when you're anything but polite ?
You can be polite and still let someone know their being stupid or moronic. Sometimes the truth is painful and playing nice to avoid hurting someone's feelings is the height of cruelty. As my wife says, "If she doesn't tell me she doesn't like something then I might try to make it again." I am exceedingly polite but that won't stop me from calling bullshit when bullshit is there.

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I've clearly shown the connection between "gay" and child molesting. You don't see it because you don't want to see it.
No you haven't. You have shown that some pedophiles molest boy children. It doesn't mean that gay=pedophiles which is the connection you repeatedly try to make through innuendo and allusion. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to children. Some children are male and some children are female. Some pedophiles even pick both. As my lovable father used to say, "I don't care what sex it is as long as it has a hole I can use."

Your attempt to use the word pederasty when pederasty only has one meaning is disingenuous. Homosexual does not equal pedophile.

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No, no connection here either right ? "Gay" is just about "love" not perversion LOL

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News agencies gagging 'gay' factor in boy rape


News coverage of a Duke University official accused of raping his adopted 5-year-old son and offering the child to someone else is apparently lacking what some say is a key piece of information: the fact the alleged perpetrator is a homosexual who lives with another "gay" man.


Lombard's alleged actions, including alleged performance of oral sex with the child in front of a webcam, and sodomizing the boy with his finger and tongue.

In his online profile, Lombard reportedly describes himself as "perv dad for fun."


News agencies gagging 'gay' factor in boy rape
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And you're going to complain about being called a faker because of your opening and closing statements when you're anything but polite ?
Let me ask you a question Captain Trips. Your talking to a friend. He says he is going to put on a pair of kids angel wings then jump of a building to see if he can fly. Do you?

1. Please pardon me for asking but have you thought this path through. Are you sure that the wings can hold you. I don't want to be a bother but perhaps you should think this through more.

Or do you?

2. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If your moron enough to try this your gonna die.

Which is the more polite way? Which is the best way to make him stop and think about it?

The idea that you must always be incredibly polite and be careful to avoid hurting someone's feelings even when their doing obviously stupid and moronic things (or in your case believing in stupid and moronic things) is moronic in its own way.

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Re: Fighting Back

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Greetings and Felicitations,



Let me ask you a question Captain Trips. Your talking to a friend. He says he is going to put on a pair of kids angel wings then jump of a building to see if he can fly. Do you?

1. Please pardon me for asking but have you thought this path through. Are you sure that the wings can hold you. I don't want to be a bother but perhaps you should think this through more.

Or do you?

2. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If your moron enough to try this your gonna die.

Which is the more polite way? Which is the best way to make him stop and think about it?

The idea that you must always be incredibly polite and be careful to avoid hurting someone's feelings even when their doing obviously stupid and moronic things (or in your case believing in stupid and moronic things) is moronic in its own way.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

Sincerely Yours,
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I would say, "How long have you been off your antipsychotic?"

Do we need an Emily Post thread?
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Greetings and Felicitations,



Let me ask you a question Captain Trips. Your talking to a friend. He says he is going to put on a pair of kids angel wings then jump of a building to see if he can fly. Do you?

1. Please pardon me for asking but have you thought this path through. Are you sure that the wings can hold you. I don't want to be a bother but perhaps you should think this through more.

Or do you?

2. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. If your moron enough to try this your gonna die.

Which is the more polite way? Which is the best way to make him stop and think about it?

The idea that you must always be incredibly polite and be careful to avoid hurting someone's feelings even when their doing obviously stupid and moronic things (or in your case believing in stupid and moronic things) is moronic in its own way.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely
That's very nice

I'm telling you that it is you that is beleiving "in stupid and moronic things" since you've given me a pass to say that to you

Why do you beleive in stupid and moronic things ?

Because you most likely haven't taken the time to study and really understand the issue that you're arguing in support of. Take the time and learn about the issue through an unbiased lense and you can only come to one conclusion. It's very clear and easy to understand and make sense of to anyone willing to honestly study and analyze it.
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I would say, "How long have you been off your antipsychotic?"

Do we need an Emily Post thread?
What the devil are you talking about ? ?

What the devil are you talking about ? ?
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This is just one of the reasons homosexuality should not be promoted as normal and healthy. That people who were molested as children often end up deciding that they're "gay" as adults and then passing this on to other kids by molesting them, proves that it's a behaviour that can be passed on through the generations.

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Redeeming the Rainbow, Dr. Scott Lively, pgs. 44 - 68

Ulrichs, having been molested at the age of fourteen by his riding instructor, adopted a homosexual identity as an adult, and worked tirelessly to legitimize his lifestyle through every available means.

...

The organization was disbanded after Gerber and two other leaders were arrested on charges of sexually molesting boys. Gerber escaped jail by bribing the judge, and went underground but remained active both as a pederast and a political activist. He passed his dream of an American homosexual movement to one of his young conquests, Champ Simmons, who in turn, as an adult homosexual, passed it on to one of his own sexual “partners,” a boy named Harry Hay.

...

Like most of the early leaders of the American “gay” movement, Hay was an advocate of homosexual pedophilia and pederasty (adult/teen sex).

...

While abuse is a common factor in male homosexuality, the correlation of childhood sexual molestation with adult lesbianism is almost universal, in my opinion and that of many people who have ministered to or professionally observed women who identify themselves as lesbians. In their cases, however, the molestations are far more often perpetrated by men than by women and are almost never later characterized as consensual. Virtually every lesbian I have ever known personally was sexually molested by a man when she was a child or early adolescent.


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Then there are these disturbing trends seen in "gays":

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Redeeming the Rainbow, Dr. Scott Lively, pgs. 44 - 48

A government-sponsored study of 5,998 Dutch adults ages 18 to 64 was featured in the January, 2001 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. Specifically, the study found that - Compared to heterosexual men, males who engage in homosexual behavior are


727 percent more likely to have suffered bipolar disorders at some point in their lives, and


502 percent more likely to have done so in the last twelve months


718 percent more likely to have suffered obsessive-compulsive disorder in the last twelve months, and 620 percent more likely at some point in their lives


632 percent more likely to have suffered agoraphobia (fear of leaving home or being in public) in the last twelve months, and


454 percent more likely at some point in their lives


421 percent more likely to have suffered panic disorder, and 229 percent more likely to have suffered social phobia at some point in their lives


375 percent more likely to have suffered simple phobia in the last twelve months, and 361 percent more likely at some point in their lives


311 percent more likely to have suffered mood disorders at some point in their lives, and 293 percent more likely in the last twelve months


261 percent more likely to have suffered anxiety disorders in the last twelve months, and 267 percent more likely over the course of their lifetimes


270 percent more likely to have suffered two or more psychiatric disorders during their lifetime


235 percent more likely to have suffered major depression at some point in their lives Compared to heterosexual women, females who engage in homosexual behavior are 405 percent more likely to have suffered a substance use disorder 241 percent more likely to have suffered mood disorders during their lifetimes


209 percent more likely to have suffered two or more mental disorders during their lifetimes As summarized by the researchers, “[t]he findings support the assumption that people with same-sex behavior are at greater risk for psychiatric disorders.” Lest the reader assume that the mental health problems identified here result from general societal disapproval and/or stigmatization of homosexual behavior, it must be noted the country from whose population the participants were drawn, the Netherlands, is generally considered the most tolerant and homosexual-affirming in the world.
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Yet some still argue in support of "gay" and say that opposing it is "stupid and moronic" ?

Forgive me if I find that somewhat "stupid and moronic."
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That's very nice

I'm telling you that it is you that is beleiving "in stupid and moronic things" since you've given me a pass to say that to you

Why do you beleive in stupid and moronic things ?

Because you most likely haven't taken the time to study and really understand the issue that you're arguing in support of. Take the time and learn about the issue through an unbiased lense and you can only come to one conclusion. It's very clear and easy to understand and make sense of to anyone willing to honestly study and analyze it.
OK. Prove it to me with valid scientific resources. No blog like missives from OneWorldNews. No postings from the Bible or Focus on the Family.

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I am absolutely stunned by the absolute stupidity and ignorance of some people...
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Redeeming the Rainbow, Dr. Scott Lively, pgs. 44 - 68

Ulrichs, having been molested at the age of fourteen by his riding instructor, adopted a homosexual identity as an adult, and worked tirelessly to legitimize his lifestyle through every available means.

...

The organization was disbanded after Gerber and two other leaders were arrested on charges of sexually molesting boys. Gerber escaped jail by bribing the judge, and went underground but remained active both as a pederast and a political activist. He passed his dream of an American homosexual movement to one of his young conquests, Champ Simmons, who in turn, as an adult homosexual, passed it on to one of his own sexual “partners,” a boy named Harry Hay.

...

Like most of the early leaders of the American “gay” movement, Hay was an advocate of homosexual pedophilia and pederasty (adult/teen sex).

...

While abuse is a common factor in male homosexuality, the correlation of childhood sexual molestation with adult lesbianism is almost universal, in my opinion and that of many people who have ministered to or professionally observed women who identify themselves as lesbians. In their cases, however, the molestations are far more often perpetrated by men than by women and are almost never later characterized as consensual. Virtually every lesbian I have ever known personally was sexually molested by a man when she was a child or early adolescent.


-------------------------------------------------------

Then there are these disturbing trends seen in "gays":

-------------------------------------------------------

Redeeming the Rainbow, Dr. Scott Lively, pgs. 44 - 48

A government-sponsored study of 5,998 Dutch adults ages 18 to 64 was featured in the January, 2001 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. Specifically, the study found that - Compared to heterosexual men, males who engage in homosexual behavior are


727 percent more likely to have suffered bipolar disorders at some point in their lives, and


502 percent more likely to have done so in the last twelve months


718 percent more likely to have suffered obsessive-compulsive disorder in the last twelve months, and 620 percent more likely at some point in their lives


632 percent more likely to have suffered agoraphobia (fear of leaving home or being in public) in the last twelve months, and


454 percent more likely at some point in their lives


421 percent more likely to have suffered panic disorder, and 229 percent more likely to have suffered social phobia at some point in their lives


375 percent more likely to have suffered simple phobia in the last twelve months, and 361 percent more likely at some point in their lives


311 percent more likely to have suffered mood disorders at some point in their lives, and 293 percent more likely in the last twelve months


261 percent more likely to have suffered anxiety disorders in the last twelve months, and 267 percent more likely over the course of their lifetimes


270 percent more likely to have suffered two or more psychiatric disorders during their lifetime


235 percent more likely to have suffered major depression at some point in their lives Compared to heterosexual women, females who engage in homosexual behavior are 405 percent more likely to have suffered a substance use disorder 241 percent more likely to have suffered mood disorders during their lifetimes


209 percent more likely to have suffered two or more mental disorders during their lifetimes As summarized by the researchers, “[t]he findings support the assumption that people with same-sex behavior are at greater risk for psychiatric disorders.” Lest the reader assume that the mental health problems identified here result from general societal disapproval and/or stigmatization of homosexual behavior, it must be noted the country from whose population the participants were drawn, the Netherlands, is generally considered the most tolerant and homosexual-affirming in the world.
First. lets make sure we use the whole title for the book shall we:
Redeeming the Rainbow: A Christian Response to the 'Gay' Agenda

Second, lets look at the diseases that being gay is supposed to entail.
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bipolar...obsessive-compulsive...agoraphobia...panic disorder...social phobia...mood disorders...anxiety disorders...psychiatric disorders...anxiety disorders...two or more mental disorders..
You do realize that the information you presented uses the same data for multiple conditions. For example, all the disorders showed above are psychiatric and mental disorders. Panic disorder is a form of anxiety disorder which is a form of social phobia which is a form of psychiatric disorder. In other words you supposed useful piece of data is full of faulty data and direct misrepresentations of a survey of a small sample of people collected by an obviously biased collector who is "a Christian Responding to the 'Gay' Agenda."

C'mon Captain Trips your gonna have to better than that.

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You do realize that the information you presented uses the same data for multiple conditions. For example, all the disorders showed above are psychiatric and mental disorders. Panic disorder is a form of anxiety disorder which is a form of social phobia which is a form of psychiatric disorder. In other words you supposed useful piece of data is full of faulty data and direct misrepresentations of a survey of a small sample of people collected by an obviously biased collector who is "a Christian Responding to the 'Gay' Agenda."

C'mon Captain Trips your gonna have to better than that.

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Greetings and Felicitations,

OK. Prove it to me with valid scientific resources. No blog like missives from OneWorldNews. No postings from the Bible or Focus on the Family.

Sincerely Yours,
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I've done so. That you missed them proves you're unwillingness to examine evidence that shows that your beleif about this issue is misguided.

Dodge and weave is a tactic always used by people on the losing end of a debate.
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I've done so. That you missed them proves you're unwillingness to examine evidence that shows that your beleif about this issue is misguided.

Dodge and weave is a tactic always used by people on the losing end of a debate.
No, you haven't. You haven't provided any evidence at all for your beliefs about homosexuals. None of the references you have ever provided Thane have ever been anything but paranoid drivel. None of it has any scientific validity whatever. Let me provide a little piece of information to prove my point. From the book you keep referencing on here:
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At the outset of this chapter let me say that I am neither a doctor of medicine nor a psychologist. I am not legally qualified to treat homosexual dysfunction. However, as a Christian pastor and theologian who has researched homosexuality and the “gay” movement for over 20 years and personally interviewed and/or observed many active and recovering homosexuals, I believe I am competent to speak on this subject. Moreover, as an attorney and a scholar, I am fully qualified to review and analyze scientific data related to homosexuality, a chore which my research has continually
required over the years.
Redeeming the Rainbow; Chapter 4: pg. 43
He admits to being neither a doctor or a scientist but somehow wants to insist that he is competent to analyze scientific data because he is a lawyer.

You know, Captain Trips, I have spent some time reading this book and I have spent some time reading the website from the author. Judging what you consider to be valid resources, as exemplified by the above references, it is no wonder that your logic is in abeyance.

To better understand Captain Trips I suggest you check out: Defend the Family - Site index. It really is a mind opener to the extent which anti-homosexuals are willing to bend the mind in order to justify their hatred and back up their beliefs.

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No, you haven't. You haven't provided any evidence at all for your beliefs about homosexuals. None of the references you have ever provided Thane have ever been anything but paranoid drivel. None of it has any scientific validity whatever. Let me provide a little piece of information to prove my point. From the book you keep referencing on here:

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Right. Here's some more information that you must classify as "paranoid drivel."

You must do so because you have to ignore facts and information that doesn't back up your confused ideas about this subject. If you didn't find ways to ignore the information, you would have to reconsider your position.

I don't expect you to reconsider your position.

I do expect you to keep finding ways to ignore information that you have to ignore

You've been given the information. What you do with it is your choice.

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Here's a group of sexual deviants being honest. They were screaming "We want your children ! We want your children !"

Honest about their hatred for people who beleive in God and the Bible.

Honest about their lust for children.

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At a Baptist church in San Francisco homosexual activists not only surrounded the church but pulled at various members trying to get ahold of them to beat them. The church had to lock the doors. The protestors were taking the heavy lawn furniture from in front of the church, and they were trying to break down the doors of the church. They were screaming "We want your children ! We want your children !" Inside, the children were frightened and crying. Fearing the wrath of the homosexual activists the police did little to stop them.

[ This occured on a Sunday night in Sept. 1993 at Hamilton Square Baptist Church, San Francisco. Rev. David Innis is the Pastor. The incident was sparked by the fact that Rev. Lou Sheldon, a Presbyterian minister and profamily Christian activist, was going to speak at the church that night. ]


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Here's proof that the media is in bed with the "gay" crowd. In bed with the "gay" crowd in their hatred for Christians.

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Observe how the media treats Christians and homosexuals:


In Sept. 1998, when two rednecks killed homosexual Matthew Shepherd in Wyoming, the media never stopped commenting on it. It was instantly defined as a hate crime. [B]A year later, in Sept. 1999, a man shouting anti Christian expletives barged into Wedgewood Baptist church in Ft. Worth during a service filled with young people. He shot and killed seven. The media and attorney general Janet Reno never got around to calling this a hate crime. They spoke as if the motives were unclear and went to the grave with the troubled shooter who shot himself too. Few Americans have forgotten about Matthew Shepherd because it was so widely reported. Few have remembered the incident at Wedgewood because it was so underreported (comparatively) [ "Leaders Decry Rising Hostility to Christians," The Los Angeles Times, Sept. 19, 1999, A08 ]


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Then we have the lie that "gay" is an immutable characteristic. That people who are "gay" were born that way. There are many ex "gays." Here's what one ex "gay had to say about the dangerous "lifestyle." Here's Dr. G. van den Aardweg, a Dutch psychiatrist speaking about it, and more.

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An ex-gay, who was about age thirty-five, told a television audience: "At this point in my life, there have been at least 94 people that I know who have died of AIDS-personal friends in the past three years." [Remarks of an ex-gay, in "Coming out: Breaking free from homosexuality."]

"although there have been many reports during the last 50 years of biological differences in homosexuals, on closer inspection or replication, such studies could not be confirmed." [ See G. van den Aardweg, On the Origins and Treatment of Homosexuality: A Psychoanalytic Reinterpretation (Westport, CT: Praeger, 1986) ]

"Virtually all of the evidence argues against there being a determinative physiological causal factor, and I know of no researcher who believes that such a determinative factor exists." [ Steven Goldberg, When Wish Replaces Thought: Why So Much of What you Believe is False (Buffalo, N.Y.: Prometheus Books, 1992), ]

An American Psychiatric Association survey of thirty-four countries reveals that their psychiatric associations declare homosexuality to be either pathological, mental illness, or sexual deviation, [ Based on a report in Psychiatric News, Sept.3, 1993, paraphrased in U.S. Psychiatrists' View on Homosexuality Differs from Colleagues in Foreign Countries," ]


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Here are some of the reasons this "lifestyle" is dangerous. Oh, by the way this information is not from "religious sources" like onenewsnow. I'm sure we can get creative and find ways to dismiss and ignore this information too. We must.

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A doctor emeritus in charge of the emergency room of a major hospital in one of our thriving metropolises said, in a virtual whisper, "I can't tell you how many times on a Friday and Saturday night, I've seen young men rushed into the emergency room who have rectums that look like raw hamburger meat."

No wonder they get AIDS and Hepatitis-B and all sorts of infectious diseases. As Lorraine Day, M.D., former Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital, once put it: "Nature said `exit,' not `enter."' [ Lorraine Day, MD, Aids: What the Government isn't Telling you (Palm Desert, CA: Rockford Press, 1991), 122 ] In fact, she writes with brutal candor, "Brutal anal sex, `fisting,' or the use of mechanical sexual aids such as dildos or vibrators produce tears and lacerations of the rectum throughout which infected semen and pathogenic organisms can and will enter the bloodstream. Blood and fecal matter sometimes find their way into the abdominal cavity through injuries. Colitis, a severe inflammation of the mucous membrane of the colon, is not uncommon among gays." [ Lorraine Day, MD, Aids: What the Government isn't Telling you (Palm Desert, CA: Rockford Press, 1991), 123 ]

"It has been my observation during 15 years as a doctor in one of the world's most-frequented trauma hospitals that much of gay sex is of the harmful, sadistic and/or masochistic variety. Gays hurt each other. They also hurt themselves." [ Lorraine Day, MD, Aids: What the Government isn't Telling you (Palm Desert, CA: Rockford Press, 1991), 111 ]


It isn't just HIV infection or AIDS that afflicts homosexuals. They are vulnerable to a host of other infectious STDs as well. The Centers for Disease Control note: "Several recent reports have documented alarming increases in sexually transmitted infection rates among men who have sex with men (MSM), and a corresponding decline in safer sex practices. After years of successful prevention efforts, this trend may portend a resurgence of HIV infection in the MSM community." ["Abstract 418 from the 2002 National STD Prevention Conference, 'Patterns of STD Infection, HIVcoinfection, and Risk-behavior among MSM at a Boston Community Health Center,'" National Center for HIV, STD and TB Prevention, Division of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (March 5, 2002)]


Here's one you must also dismiss and ignore. It's from an ex "gay" - gasp -


An ex-"gay" that didn't buy the lies being told to him by "gay" activists that "gay" is an immutable characteristic. Yes, "gays" can change. - gasp -


Jeff Johnson is a former homosexual and is now a therapist who helps men and women out of homosexuality. He says, "The biggest problem I have with any of those studies [on a supposed biological basis for homosexuality] is that they take away our free will. They reduce us to mechanistic beings who are drawn to our genes, and God said we're more than that. I never bought into the idea that I was gay or that that was my identity. My identity is as a man; my identity is as a son of God; as one of His creations. My identity is as a heterosexual man; that is what God intended me to be." [ Jeff Johnson, in "Coming Out: Breaking Free from Homosexuality." ]


Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, issued a very true statement. We can see that what he said is coming true:


"The so-called "gay agenda" is far-reaching, and it encompasses much more than the fight for marriage rights. If we do not immediately pass a Constitutional amendment protecting marriage, we will not only lose the institution of marriage in our nation, but eventually all critics of the homosexual lifestyle will be silenced. Churches will be muted, schools will be forced to promote homosexuality as a consequence-free alternative lifestyle, and our nation will find itself embroiled in a cultural, legal and moral quagmire." [ Tony Perkins, "FRC Statement on Massachusetts Homosexual "Marriages" (Washington, D.C.: Family Research Council, May 17, 2004) ]
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