Thread: James Pouillon's Son: My Dad Was a Woman-Hater, Not a Martyr

Doesn't sounds like his son is a very rational source of information, either. Reading the last sentence he seems to think that murder is a good solution to a problem. He also seems to think that 1st Amendment rights is a crime. Maybe crazy runs in the family.

Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3

This is certainly adding a new twist to this story. Looks like there may be more to it than just histrionic hand wringing about 'anti-abortion violence'.

James Pouillon's Son: My Dad Was a Woman-Hater, Not a Martyr - True Crime Report

​In the wake of his murder on September 11, James Pouillon has been described as a martyr and a hero by the pro-life movement. He was shot while protesting outside an Owosso, Michigan high school.

Pro-lifers say he was gunned down for his strident anti-abortion views. But the shooter, Harlan Drake, has told police that he shot Pouilon because he protested with graphic aborted fetus signs in front of children. Drake's family says he really doesn't have any defined abortion beliefs that they know of.

And now it seems Pouillon may not have had any either -- at least according to his son. Dr. James M. Pouillon, a Grand Rapids podiatrist, has not spoken to his dad since 2001, so there's clearly no love lost here. But he claims his dad simply had a deep hatred of women, and protesting against abortion was the best way to act that out...

Here's a post he left on The Flint Journal website:

"It will be impossible for some to believe, but my dad really didn't care about aborton.

He did this to stalk, harass, terrorize, scream at, threaten, frighten, and verbally abuse women. He had a pathologic hatred of women: his mom, my mom, everyone.

After my mom finally left him and he lost his favorite punching bag the violence and abuse that was always contained within our 4 walls was unleased on the people of Owosso.

My dad used the pro-life movement and 1st Amendments foundations to defend him, support him, and enable him. He fooled them all.

He was at the high shool because my niece was there, and female family members were always his favorite targets.

Again, my dad didn't care about abortion. He wanted to hurt people, upset people. He enjoyed making people suffer.

His goal was to be shot on a sidewalk. His goal was to make someone so angry, to make them feel so terrorized, to make them feel the only way they could make him stop was to kill him.

His pro-life stance was the most perfect crime I personally know of. He hid behind the 1st Amendment and was allowed to stalk, terrorise, harass, be obsene, ect. These things are crimes. Offending people isn't a crime, and having different political views isn't a crime, but he committed several crimes over the last 20 years and got away with it.

Yes I really am his oldest son. Owosso is now rid of a mad man."

Just another typical embittered Repub- Ho Hum

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Doesn't sounds like his son is a very rational source of information, either. Reading the last sentence he seems to think that murder is a good solution to a problem. He also seems to think that 1st Amendment rights is a crime. Maybe crazy runs in the family.

There's nothing particularly irrational about his statements; quite clear, succinct and lucid, IMO.

And, no, you're reading waaaaaay too much into that last sentence, and his opinion of the 1st amendment. That 'seems' to be rather a rather hollow and transparent way to attempt to discredit him.

You seem to see a lot in his statements that isn't actually there.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Maybe crazy runs in the family.

And they're coming out of the gates.

BTW, are you admitting that James Pouillon was crazy and that his "pro-life" stances could have been a result of mental disfunction?

Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3

There's nothing particularly irrational about his statements; quite clear, succinct and lucid, IMO.

And, no, you're reading waaaaaay too much into that last sentence, and his opinion of the 1st amendment. That 'seems' to be rather a rather hollow and transparent way to attempt to discredit him.

You seem to see a lot in his statements that isn't actually there.

The far right is good at seeing things that are not there like WMD's and ties to Al Queda in Iraq, tax cuts for the rich enriching the economy ad infinitum , ad nauseam

He apparently didn't just hate women he hated children based upon his perversion of showing aborted fetuses to minors.

OK ... Now we need this article in two threads in the same forum?

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/abor...ml#post1544880

You're awfully excited about this development, aren't you?

I can see why this thread was started.

The other thread focussed on the abortion issue, and identified the murder as a "tragic example of pro abortion violence" which this wasn't.

If we are to look at what the son says, his father has been a public nuisance for years.

The lesson is that if people are unable to contain themselves and behave within the bounds of public decency (and showing pictures of aborted fetuses to children is not within those bounds), there may be consequences.

This in no way is intended to excuse a murder, just to be aware that we cannot predict how people will react if we behave in an chronically offensive way.

This is not the same as abortion clinic bombings which are obviously planned in advance.

Originally Posted by AjaxPress

And they're coming out of the gates.

BTW, are you admitting that James Pouillon was crazy and that his "pro-life" stances could have been a result of mental disfunction?

Yes, I don't think his tactics where those of a rational man.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

He apparently didn't just hate women he hated children based upon his perversion of showing aborted fetuses to minors.

What's wrong with showing pictures of a collection of cells to kids? I saw it in HS biology all the time. Why do you hate education?

Originally Posted by fishjoel

What's wrong with showing pictures of a collection of cells to kids? I saw it in HS biology all the time. Why do you hate education?

Just wondering, are for showing full frontal nudity to toddlers?

Originally Posted by AjaxPress

Just wondering, are for showing full frontal nudity to toddlers?

Your sentence doesn't even makes sense. I tried to piece together something of your intent, but that didn't make sense, either. Knowing your posting history that's not a surprise though.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Doesn't sounds like his son is a very rational source of information, either. Reading the last sentence he seems to think that murder is a good solution to a problem. He also seems to think that 1st Amendment rights is a crime. Maybe crazy runs in the family.

That's a good point. It certainly seemed this son had a serious axe to grind with his father, and maby this is his way of doing it. I don't know either way, but what I do know is that it sure is odd to have your father murdered for his political beliefs and have nothing to say other than "we got rid of a madman."