I sincerely hope the poor do advance. It would get them paying their share of taxes, at least. I just have a problem with them advancing due to my hard work.
I'm as generous as the next guy. I give time and money to those that are less fortunate than me, but being forced to share the fruits of MY labor because some people refuse to get off their asses to better themselves pisses me off.

A system that rewards people for laziness only creates more lazy people. The Conservative view of personal responsibility creates people that pay their own way and are not at the mercy of Big Brother for their meals.

whats stoping them ?

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

it's gonna be hard for you to get rich when no one else has any money to buy whatever you're selling. luckily we have a public education system so people are able to lead productive lives and help you get rich.

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

Because I dont beleive anyone has to be "allowed" anything. We are a free country. We should act like it and stop relying on others to give you permission.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

HOw is it lucky, when I have 40%-50% of everything I make taken to pay for it? HOw am I gonna get rich when the people who have access to a public system are still a bunch of dumb masses who dont lead prodcutive lives? How are they helping me get rich exactly?

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

Actually, the poor have a better chance of advancing in this country than just about any other in the world. The freedom to advance and suceed also means freedom to fail utterly and completely

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"It's a good feeling to shoot a bad guy. Something you democrats would never understand. Americans are homesteaders, we want a safe home, keep the money we make, and shoot bad guys!"

----Denny Crane

*sigh*

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

agreed.

but what do we do with the failures? let them die of starvation?

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

What happened to Darwin's Theory of Evolution?

Please...

They get to pick themselves up and try again. Nobody dies of starvation in America unless they choose to.

Do things get tight sometimes? Damn straight they do. That's your incentive to do better next time.

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He's come to save the day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFdAJRVm94

what about it?

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

if you really believe this, you're living in a dream world, my man.

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

You asked what we do about the failures...

and you asked me a question about a scientific theory...

edit: i guess it is your position then that if someone isn't a huge success in this country we should just let them become a hobo and die. gotcha.

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"My country is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine

That wouldn't apply in a civilized setting. Natural selection, as it were, means that 'favorable' genetic mutations cause some animals to live long enough to pass on their genetic makeup and others to die before doing so. In spite of the best efforts of eugenicists in the early half of the 20th century, no substantive scientific evidence was ever able to support the notion that natural selection applied to societal undesirables.

Being impoverished or on welfare is not genetic, ergo, there is no genetic selection - only a desire to stop those perceived as inferior from breeding.

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"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases."

-Thomas Jefferson