This has become an issue in my city recently, in that the poor people are complaining about rich area schools being better than poor schools, even though public resources are doled out evenly. So they suggest either not allowing the rich schools to be as succesful, or taking money from rich schools and moving them to poor schools (socialism).

Which led me to think, why is it that rich areas dont simply build their own private school and limit it to their neighborhood? This wouldnt get them out of paying taxes to school districts of course, even though they are no longer taking part in the public school system, but it would allow them to better control their childs education and experiences.

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I'd have no problem with that...

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If it wasn't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all...

Wouldn't it make more sense to demand that the po folks be beter parents ?

No amount of money is going t make their kids do better if they do not require better of them.

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And that is a fact.

wouldn't have a problem with the private schools.


daddio, mel, its not just the parents, at least not in every case. granted there are always the dumbassess. But some kids have to work a job to help support the family, or simply don't have real opportunities because of their financial situation. now i'm not advocating socialism, just pointing out that fact.

Parents expecting more of their children doesn't do a damn thing for the problem of broken schools. I've never seen a good public school, and in my experience, the wealthier the area, the worse the school is. You don't get the gang problems and the like, but you'll never meet children with less discipline than those I encountered from the nicer schools during my high school debate days. When sixteen year olds take offense at the lack of respect others show to the facilities and faculty of their school, it's a problem.

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They are free to be stupid parents. The problem is its infringing on the people who ARE good parents. What I dont like is if I move into a nice neighborhood, then all the money I would like to spend on my childs education goes to a bad neighborhood to make it more fair. So, why not opt out of the public school system, and start your own community school with fellow parents. Kind of like a large home school system.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

nothing wrong with it at all apart from flushing your ttax dollars down the drain.

I would frist maintain equal distribution of funds, then vouchers to facilitate your private schools.

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Functionally this already sorta happens. The schools in the nicer areas have mostly students whos parents live in those nicer areas. While not private, in most cases they aren't busing in these students from the poorer areas.

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No, but funds are being put into a general pool and then sent to schools based on fairness instead of geography. The parents simply pay on top of their taxes for their school, such as booster programs.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

lol a public school system is inherently socialist anyway, smart guy.

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Maybe it isn't about money. Maybe the parents of these kids in these "poor area schools" are poor because they are stupid and their kids are stupid, too.

No amount of money can fix stupid.

...or maybe it's also about money.

not every poor family consists of stupid people either, melanie. if you're going to punish the stupid poor for being stupid you're also going to end up punshing the smart poor simply because they're poor.

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And the problem is that poor people are poor for a reason and their ethics that keep them poor will only contribute to the next generation.

Success and hard work are ideas that are passed on and learned, generally in the ghetto "success" via education is NOT embraced.

School quality has absolutely NOTHING to do with poverty.

When 15-year olds are reading Dr. Seuss books their is NO ONE to blame but the students. They either don't want to learn shit or are fucking retarded.

I mean its not like these "poverty schools" are only capable of teaching to a certain level, oh their more then capable of teaching kids but the kids want NOTHING to do with education. These kids in poor areas want to be "Bill Badass" not the next president of the United States.

This is why in Chicago the school districts send the kids from poor areas that succeed in school to charter schools and leave the majority of the idiots behind because the idiots don't want to learn anything. They want to gang bang, sell drugs and fuck.

This is just another case where personal responsibility is becoming extinct.

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I beg to differ. The blame is with the parent(s).

No amount of money will change this as has been demonstated time and again.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand