Sounds about right to me.

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Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

You're both idiots, you had just as much a responsibility to use contraceptives as she did. You're not smarter than her because you didn't knock somebody up at 18, just lucky.

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Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

Well they certainly cant go home with you and make sure you use it. Imagine the uproar.

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Including a boyfriend who only stuck around because it was convenient to screw her? Hmmm, surprising she turned out with some major issues, isn't it?

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Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

Absolutely. We were both idiots...freaking morons actually.

My daughter is now 19, so she don't need any more "talks" with Dad on this subject, however I always told her that it is always ultimately up to the girl.
A boy will do it 100% of the time regardless of who, how or where and whether there is protection or not...if she is willing - he is on it (literally).

Not to say she has the responsibility alone - she doesn't. I am no ogre. It takes two - however as teenagers, girls usually have more sense than boys and better judgment.

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Oh c'mon Cari...I was 16.
As the saying goes "young, dumb and full of cum". There is not a boy on the planet who would have given up this situation easily.

Read post above.

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Couldn't have anything to do with the free pass boys get when it comes to good judgement, now could it?

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Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

Do you think the 15 year old you were screwing gives a flying fuck about that? Yes you were only 16, but since you aren't saddled with a child from your idiot days, but she is, it's real easy for you to look down on this girl now.

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Whenever someone says "I'm not book smart, but I'm street smart", all I hear is "I'm not real smart, but I'm imaginary smart".

Cari - as I said, I am no ogre.
I also have a son - who BTW is now 15.
With him I take a different approach...if he gets caught with his pants down with a girl and I have to deal with the trouble of it - he loses his car...period.
I have talked a LOT to him about respecting girls.
At 14 he competed for State champion swimmer.
He is 15 and is on the varsity team...he would have a lot to lose by 5 minutes ill spent.
Boys are equally responsible. Just a whole lot more stupid than girls as teens.

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Liberals are LIKE stubborn little kids ?

Below is a writing that proves that they ARE stubborn little kids. Stubborn and bratty.

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Schizophrenic, no. Sensible and based on facts, yes.

Lets examine what it says here;

Move over, KKK (OneNewsNow.com) again:

In her book The Pivot of Civilization, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wrote that unless something was done to stop them, those living in the slums (blacks, Hispanics, and Jews) would eventually leave the boundaries of their neighborhoods and mix with the better parts of society (whites). Their inferior genes, she argued, would then infect the rest of us. Therefore, she suggested we cease all charitable giving to the inner-city poor, segregate these "morons, misfits, and maladjusted," sterilize these "genetically inferior races," and begin a process of eliminating such "human weeds."

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The founder of planned parenthood wasn't a closeted racist. Her words were very clear in a book she wrote for all to read. Apparently these views sold well. "Planned parenthood" AKA planned extermination of "human weeds," is still with us.

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By 1991, Planned Parenthood was reporting that 43 percent of all its abortions were performed on minorities – a time when the minorities accounted for only 19 percent of the total population. And in a comparative analysis between the 2000 U.S. Census data and the location of Planned Parenthood clinics, Cybercast News Service concluded, "The results appear to bolster the charge that the organization targets black communities."


Consider also a recent sting operation conducted by The Advocate, a student magazine at UCLA. In the sting, an actor posed as a potential donor to Planned Parenthood wanting to contribute his money to help "lower the number of black people." In the seven states where the sting took place, each clinic agreed to take the racially earmarked contribution, with none of them expressing concern over the motivation. In one exchange, the actor said, "the less black kids out there, the better." The Planned Parenthood director responded by saying such sentiments were "understandable."


Move over, KKK (OneNewsNow.com)


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The motive of planned parenthood is STILL to help keep the "human weeds" down to acceptable levels.

This is a sneaky kind of racial profiling/exterminating that the citizens have accepted as perfectly OK, because it has been sold to them under the guise of "caring for the poor" and "helping children."

Once again we can see that entire populations can be sold dangerous ideas if they are delivered the right way.


As I was just saying

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And yet I've seen zero evidence, besides OneNewsNow, who fail to back it up, that she said any of those things.

Keep in mind that back when she wrote those things, the 'slums' were mostly filled with European immigrants, not blacks and hispanics.

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Of course she never said those things. She never wrote those things either.

Know why ?

Because you don't want those things to be what she wrote or said

Really ?

Why ? Because you said so

You're playing games is what you're doing. You'd have us ignore the real motives of planned parenthood why ?

You don't like "jigs" and "wetbacks" either eh ?

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So an organization that shows women how to utilize birth control is a lousy organization that deserves to have a bulldozer run through the place? Gotcha.

I'd argue parents who don't teach their sexually active 15y.o. daughter about birth control deserve to 1) have a pregnant 15y.o. daughter or 2) deserve to have a bulldozer run through their house. The same actually applies to teenage boys -- their parents should be instructing them as well, and if the parents wont, hopefully places like planned parenthood will instead of learning through their friends that doing headstands stops pregnancy or other bullshit.

If you'd spent a little time reading the thread, you'd see that I'm not fan of Sanger, disagreed with her policies and think she was generally a turd. If I found out she was also racist, I would have no issue with that, it's not like my impression of her could get much worse.

However, your whole point here is that she was racist, when there is actually not much evidence to point to that. I've left several posts in this thread trying to find any sort of quotes by her that can actually be attributed to her that show that she's racist and I cannot.

Sanger based her terrible ideas of eugenics based around those who leeched off society and those of contributed to society. Those that leeched off of society and languished in poverty or who were mentally disabled, et.c, were not fit to reproduce according to her. I have yet to find any evidence that race itself was her motivation factor, no matter how much I've searched. Of course, one could say that those who are poor or leach off of society tend to be black and hispanic, but that's a very modern way of looking at things. Slums were largely comprised of Italians, Germans, Irish, etc, back around the turn of the century, in which Sanger's views were formed and put into writing.

If you could point me to some quotes by her that have been confirmed to be her saying it, I would love to see it. Then I will merrily agree with you that getting rid of black people and hispanics was her main goal. Otherwise, there is no reason to believe so.

Well, no. Because it's quite a well known fact that during the turn of the century there was a rather large and nearly unsustainable influx of European immigration to the country and they mostly comprised the ghettos and slums.

Here's a brief refresher:

History of immigration to the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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I am new to this thread and it is way too silly to read all the way through , but has anyone pointed out that Sanger was opposed to abortion?
Margaret Sanger - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
She was for birth control, NOT abortion and that is what Planned Parenthood still wants despite of what ignorant blowhards like Rush Limbaugh say.
Limbaugh falsely suggests Planned Parenthood mainly provides abortions | Media Matters for America