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The heart of abortion.

So now we know what "abortion" is really about.

It sure as hell isn't about "a womans right" or a "choice."

It's always funny how those who tell us about tolerance so much are most often the most hateful racists we've ever seen.

Very interesting.

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In her book The Pivot of Civilization, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wrote that unless something was done to stop them, those living in the slums (blacks, Hispanics, and Jews) would eventually leave the boundaries of their neighborhoods and mix with the better parts of society (whites). Their inferior genes, she argued, would then infect the rest of us. Therefore, she suggested we cease all charitable giving to the inner-city poor, segregate these "morons, misfits, and maladjusted," sterilize these "genetically inferior races," and begin a process of eliminating such "human weeds."

And her organization, Planned Parenthood, has done just that. In the 1980s, the organization began intentionally targeting black inner-city neighborhoods for their clinics. Author George Grant pointed out that, "of the more than 100 school-based clinics that have opened nationwide in the [1980s]...all have been at black, minority, or ethnic schools." By 1991, Planned Parenthood was reporting that 43 percent of all its abortions were performed on minorities – a time when the minorities accounted for only 19 percent of the total population. And in a comparative analysis between the 2000 U.S. Census data and the location of Planned Parenthood clinics, Cybercast News Service concluded, "The results appear to bolster the charge that the organization targets black communities."


Consider also a recent sting operation conducted by The Advocate, a student magazine at UCLA. In the sting, an actor posed as a potential donor to Planned Parenthood wanting to contribute his money to help "lower the number of black people." In the seven states where the sting took place, each clinic agreed to take the racially earmarked contribution, with none of them expressing concern over the motivation. In one exchange, the actor said, "the less black kids out there, the better." The Planned Parenthood director responded by saying such sentiments were "understandable."


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Re: The heart of abortion.

The Democratic Party, Planned Parenthood and the ACLU are far more successful at exterminating blacks than the KKK could have dreamed of.
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Re: The heart of abortion.

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So now we know what "abortion" is really about.

It sure as hell isn't about "a womans right" or a "choice."

It's always funny how those who tell us about tolerance so much are most often the most hateful racists we've ever seen.

Very interesting.

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In her book The Pivot of Civilization, Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wrote that unless something was done to stop them, those living in the slums (blacks, Hispanics, and Jews) would eventually leave the boundaries of their neighborhoods and mix with the better parts of society (whites). Their inferior genes, she argued, would then infect the rest of us. Therefore, she suggested we cease all charitable giving to the inner-city poor, segregate these "morons, misfits, and maladjusted," sterilize these "genetically inferior races," and begin a process of eliminating such "human weeds."

And her organization, Planned Parenthood, has done just that. In the 1980s, the organization began intentionally targeting black inner-city neighborhoods for their clinics. Author George Grant pointed out that, "of the more than 100 school-based clinics that have opened nationwide in the [1980s]...all have been at black, minority, or ethnic schools." By 1991, Planned Parenthood was reporting that 43 percent of all its abortions were performed on minorities – a time when the minorities accounted for only 19 percent of the total population. And in a comparative analysis between the 2000 U.S. Census data and the location of Planned Parenthood clinics, Cybercast News Service concluded, "The results appear to bolster the charge that the organization targets black communities."

Consider also a recent sting operation conducted by The Advocate, a student magazine at UCLA. In the sting, an actor posed as a potential donor to Planned Parenthood wanting to contribute his money to help "lower the number of black people." In the seven states where the sting took place, each clinic agreed to take the racially earmarked contribution, with none of them expressing concern over the motivation. In one exchange, the actor said, "the less black kids out there, the better." The Planned Parenthood director responded by saying such sentiments were "understandable."


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Ah, yet more breathless, manufactured conspiracy bullshit.

Abortion, despite your protestations to the contrary, is most definitely about the right to chose. What Margret Sanger thought back then means all of nothing to what abortion is now and, since it seems to somehow have escaped your estimable powers of observation, abortion and PP are two different things.

But, of course, you think you know what abortion's "really" all about, and cart out the usual crap about hatred, imaginary racism, blahblahblahblahblah.....
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Ah, yet more breathless, manufactured conspiracy bullshit.

Abortion, despite your protestations to the contrary, is most definitely about the right to chose. What Margret Sanger thought back then means all of nothing to what abortion is now and, since it seems to somehow have escaped your estimable powers of observation, abortion and PP are two different things.

But, of course, you think you know what abortion's "really" all about, and cart out the usual crap about hatred, imaginary racism, blahblahblahblahblah.....
That is not "manufactured" that is a FACT. To this day, most abortion clinics are in low income, minority communities. That is a FACT.
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Eugenics you say?

I can't tell if thats more insidious than getting people addicted to consequence free sex and then trading the cure for social and political servitude or not.
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That is not "manufactured" that is a FACT. To this day, most abortion clinics are in low income, minority communities. That is a FACT.
It couldn't be that low income and minority communities are the ones that have the highest level of unplanned pregnancies and the most needful of clinics where they can get help without having to pay exorbitant fees to a doctor because they don't have insurance. Nope. That surely can't be the reason.
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So one persons opinion must be the opinion of every Planned Parenthood employee forever...yeah.
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The Democratic Party, Planned Parenthood and the ACLU are far more successful at exterminating blacks than the KKK could have dreamed of.
Bingo, You're absolutely correct.

I'm glad someone sees it how it really is.
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That is not "manufactured" that is a FACT. To this day, most abortion clinics are in low income, minority communities. That is a FACT.
Maybe because in higher income communities people have money and can actully PAY?
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OK, so what are the implications of this thread? It almost seems as if one conservative value, self reliance, is being played off against another, right to life. And that makes the thread itself seem a little schizophrenic.

Tripps, are you WANTING to see MORE children born in the inner city welfare communities to drug addicted mothers and absentee fathers where they will be abused and neglected?
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Re: The heart of abortion.

Is it not terrible when you get down to it, that the only effective way of dealing with inner-city teen pregnancy and child abandonment is to kill the child before it is born?
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Is it not terrible when you get down to it, that the only effective way of dealing with inner-city teen pregnancy and child abandonment is to kill the child before it is born?
Of course that is terrible. But think of the multitude of OTHER issues that have NOT been dealt with which would render the need for abortion to be moot. Like, say, umh, educaiton, values, work ethic....to name a few.
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OK, so what are the implications of this thread? It almost seems as if one conservative value, self reliance, is being played off against another, right to life. And that makes the thread itself seem a little schizophrenic.

Tripps, are you WANTING to see MORE children born in the inner city welfare communities to drug addicted mothers and absentee fathers where they will be abused and neglected?
It seems every issue has liberals arguing against personal responsibility.

Thats pretty much the meat of every issue. Liberals are always for making someone else clean up their mess or provide entitlements for them and conservatives are like fuck that you take care of your own damn problems your self.

Conservatives are like, "if you don't want a kid then don't fuck and if you do use protection" and the liberals are like "ill fuck as much as I feel like it and if I have a kid I can put that little bastard in the blender and its my RIGHT to do that"

Never mind the fact these liberals are killing fetuses to embrace personal freedom......

Thats really all it is, "I have the FREEDOM to kill my unborn child, I don't want to be a mom so imma kill this little son of a bitch"

Of course conservatives are like, you shouldnt kill a viable fetus because your a irresponsible whore and the liberals are like "she has every right to be a whore"

Liberals are like stubborn little kids, they do shit out of spite or just because they can.

Killing fetuses to make a political point is sinister and liberals do it all the time.

Liberals are tying to completely abolish consequences for actions, hence eradicating "responsibility."
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Of course that is terrible. But think of the multitude of OTHER issues that have NOT been dealt with which would render the need for abortion to be moot. Like, say, umh, educaiton, values, work ethic....to name a few.
Of course. But that is not at all, in any way effective and completely unrealistic given the nature of inner city societies.

These places are the armpits of America.
They reject responsibility, ethics and morality. Refuse to admonish young men who almost completely as a society abandon their offspring.
They celebrate lawlessness, lude behavior and racism/sexism.

Nothing but killing the fetus will be effective in this environment.
And with the obtuse PC reporting by the media...this isn't going to change.
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Of course. But that is not at all, in any way effective and completely unrealistic given the nature of inner city societies.

These places are the armpits of America.
They reject responsibility, ethics and morality. Refuse to admonish young men who almost completely as a society abandon their offspring.
They celebrate lawlessness, lude behavior and racism/sexism.

Nothing but killing the fetus will be effective in this environment.
And with the obtuse PC reporting by the media...this isn't going to change.
Yes, that IS the culture in the inner city, and I think it has about as much to do with the difficulty people have with leaving the familiar. Why would someone choose poverty? To stay near friends and family. Where I am from there are few opportunities and young people who wish to advance have to move away. Having done that myself, I can tell you what a difficult decision it is to go and to stay gone when you are wanting to be back with your family and friends every minute of the day.

When I worked in the projects, what I saw was that family attachments are very strong, and young people are not encouraged to leave to seek a better life. It has definitely BECOME the culture you describe, but poverty doesn't equate with that culture. I have seen that also where I am from. I know many many poor people in KY who would never leave their families even if it mean perpetual poverty, yet they would never hurt your or take a dime from you.

I think there are some blacks out there who are getting it. I have worked with them. I worked with one woman who chose not to have children so she could use her income to help raise her nephews and help them get an education. Other cultures do that kind of thing. I worked with a native American woman who had remained single to help her younger brothers and sisters through college. She was working on her masters at Vanderbilt because she had paid for college for the last of her young siblings and wanted to furhter her own education.

For things to change, there will have to be a change in values such that those who DO leave help to bring others with them. Otherwise, the culture and the problem will continue to be what you describe or worse.
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