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Sounds to me like the woman kept bringing it up. She was "imposing her believs upon others" and should be reprimanded.

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Unsolicited announcements of ones homosexuality are no more appropriate in the workplace than unsolicited announcements of ones religious beliefs.

And yet the solicitor gets protection.

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He got played, this is a common left wing tactic to silence the opposition.......... try to make others fearful of negative consequences stemming from stating their opinion.

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I think she reacted like any woman getting married soon reacts. She was happy about it and talked about it. One of my former colleagues constantly talked about her upcoming marriage for weeks. And while I don't like the concept of marriage and thought she's too young I didn't tell her that I feel she's doing the wrong thing. Why? Because it's none of my business and she was happy so why put her down? So I did the unthinkable (not unthinkable to me but it seems for a lot of other people) ... I listened and asked questions about her marriage although I don't believe in marriage. And that's no new concept. The concept of being nice and friendly to the people around you exists for a long time now.

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Talk about spineless, politically correct soft heads in corporate America - geez!

I'm not a lawyer but I have managed people in the workplace in the past for years now. I have had human resources come after me because of an employee with trumped up charges, and guess what, you can fight and win.

Weather that's possible in this case I'm not sure but it seem like to me the fired manager might be able to make a counter sexual harassment case seeing how how the employee voluntarily brought up the subject of her homosexual marriage several times and in doing so it forced her sexual lifestyle beliefs on the manager who felt uncomfortable hence the reason why he told her he disagreed with the marriage. It was the manager's way of telling her to stop talking about her relationship.

Like I said, the fired manager may not have a case depending on the specifics of company policy, specifics of Massachusetts law and other factors.

Another key factor to keep in mind here, and the fired manager probably didn't know this, is the "he said-she said factor." The article didn't state if there were any witnesses around and if not, HR can't show him the door, no matter what was said if there were no witnesses, no evidence of any kind that what was said was actually said. It's hearsay. That's it. If anything HR might can give the employee a reprimand or a warning but not termination. If they do, then the employee has a strong case with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission and/or an attorney.

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No. She was just stating fact regarding her marriage ("She had married her partner."). That is not equivalent to "imposing her beliefs upon others"

If the terminated employee had stated a fact regarding their own personal relationships, then that wouldn't constitute "imposing a belief" either.

You can have a fact regarding a relationship or a fact regarding a belief about a relationship. Such as "..with regard to such and such a relationship my belief is so and so." This would be stating a fact about a belief, but does not of course make the belief a fact.

And in America, if your beliefs are different than batshit crazy liberal beliefs, you need to shut the fuck up and sit down.

Your statement is an example of stating a fact about your beliefs, but that does not make what you believe a fact.

Can you see the difference?

And last time I checked, in America we had the freedom of speech to express our beliefs.

I mean... only if those beliefs are in line with batshit crazy liberal beliefs.

Liberals will tell you what is acceptable to believe and what is not.

There you go again with an ad hominem statement of your beliefs.

Can you discuss this without insulting anyone?

There are facts (or truth) and there are opinions.

This isn't a question of "freedom of speech" in America. The issue is what is said in a workplace.

In a workplace, the employer sets the policies that reflect the values of the company. All employees would be expected to abide by those policies.

Well... maybe the liberals just need to pass a law to make it illegal to speak of anything but facts in public.

This is better, but still missing the point about this being a workplace issue.

It comes down to this. Did the terminated employee violate his employer's policy? If he did violate their policy, then they are within bounds in terminating him. If he did not violate their policy and said alleged violation was the given reason for said termination, then said termination would be out of line.

I speak day in day out in the workplace about opinions. EVERYONE does.

It was ignorant for her to ASSume that everyone was A-OK with her queer marriage. Some people aren't. That is a FACT.

Be careful what you say... it may go against what the state thinks is ok.

What you can say in the workplace is dictated by the employer's specific policies.

There was no such assumption about everyone being "A-OK" about her marriage. The marriage itself is a question of objective fact. That he didn't like it was subjective.

Again, you are trying to make this a state issue when it is not in fact a state issue.

If you think that employers ought not be able to restrict an employee's freedom of expression in the work place, then that is a seperate issue from whether they currently can restrict that freedom of expression under current law.

Do you think that an employer has the right to set policy regarding appropriate and inappropriate workplace discussion?

Fact - Not everyone approves of gay marriage.
Fact - Not everyone approves of homosexuality.
Fact - The woman kept bringing up the subject. By doing so, she was reinforcing her opinion that her actions were acceptable.
Fact - The woman made the other employee uncomfortable to the point that he responded as such.

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Fairness doesn't just happen. It requires the right government policies." -Hillary Clinton


The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

2 Corinthians 4:4

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:6