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Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

Rachel Maddow interviews Richard Cohen. At one point during the interview, Ms. Maddow cites a passage from Mr. Cohen's book which he says will be removed in the next edition.

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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

So, did you have any thoughts of your own on the topic?
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

how about the citation for those of us that don't want to listen to Maddow?
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

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how about the citation for those of us that don't want to listen to Maddow?

or anything at all... I do not get hte point of the thread unless the poster is RM's pr person trying to get anyone to start watching his/her show.
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

Who cares about any of this???
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

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Who cares about any of this???

well it has potential, a homosexual talking to a guy that "fixes" homosexuals...

but I cant watch video here so its kind of nothing for me as is
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

Whats wrong with a guy who thinks he can cure homosexuals?

How is this guy wrong?

Because he has the "audacity" to see things differently then whats normally accepted?

When he starts breaking laws or raping and killing gays I will jump on the hate bandwagon, until then liberals can just let the man do what he does.
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Re: Rachel Maddow Interviews Gay Cure Guru "Ex-Gay" Richard Cohen

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Whats wrong with a guy who thinks he can cure homosexuals?

How is this guy wrong?

Because he has the "audacity" to see things differently then whats normally accepted?

When he starts breaking laws or raping and killing gays I will jump on the hate bandwagon, until then liberals can just let the man do what he does.
i think it probably pisses some people off because he treats what many see as a genetic issue (or if not genetic, a behavior deeply ingrained from birth and not able to be tossed by the wayside and still feel comfortable in your own skin) as a disease. many don't see anything wrong with being homosexual (more gays means less competition for women from men who are generally better suited to attract a woman, fit, with a good sense of fashion etc, and most lesbians aren't what i'd call my type. on a general level.) ,and resent being told they have a disease, or that somethings wrong with them.
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i think it probably pisses some people off because he treats what many see as a genetic issue (or if not genetic, a behavior deeply ingrained from birth and not able to be tossed by the wayside and still feel comfortable in your own skin) as a disease. many don't see anything wrong with being homosexual (more gays means less competition for women from men who are generally better suited to attract a woman, fit, with a good sense of fashion etc, and most lesbians aren't what i'd call my type. on a general level.) ,and resent being told they have a disease, or that somethings wrong with them.
Well I think homosexuality is a functional mental disorder... Its ok, people get depressed, people have OCD, people have ADHD etc..

My opinion is if gays aren't a danger to them selves or society then its not a problem.

I think we don't call it a mental disorder because it sounds bad, it sounds offensive as if gay people are "crazy" and as a matter of fact it was once listed as a mental disorder back in the 70's before the liberal "touchy feely" movement began.
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Well I think homosexuality is a functional mental disorder... Its ok, people get depressed, people have OCD, people have ADHD etc..

My opinion is if gays aren't a danger to them selves or society then its not a problem.

I think we don't call it a mental disorder because it sounds bad, it sounds offensive as if gay people are "crazy" and as a matter of fact it was once listed as a mental disorder back in the 70's before the liberal "touchy feely" movement began.
and others would disagree with you. which is why they would get pissed off.

glad youre so magnanimous as to suffer their existance. its just a difference in who theyre fucking, not a psychosis.

we don't call it a mental disorder, because people can be commited to insane asylums for mental disorders. people used to do that to gays you know.
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and others would disagree with you. which is why they would get pissed off.

glad youre so magnanimous as to suffer their existance. its just a difference in who theyre fucking, not a psychosis.

we don't call it a mental disorder, because people can be commited to insane asylums for mental disorders. people used to do that to gays you know.
Well according to liberals everything is "inherited" because then being fucked up is always someone else fault.

I was reading an article where some whackjob kook quack was trying to claim racism was genetic..

Nice.

This gay issue is a good example of where image is more important then reality...

What would you say if there was irrefutable proof gays were crazy???? would you call them crazy? I highly doubt it .... Would the establishment(s) call them crazy? I doubt that as well.

Its all about the image and being polite over truth...

Would you call a guy who fucks a horse crazy or sane?

I don't see any difference between a guy who fucks a horse or a guy who fucks another guy... for the simple fact you cant pro-create with either...But as a society we say one is ok and the other is batshit crazy.

Were creating the standards here and TRUTH doesn't mean jack shit anymore, just the image.
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and others would disagree with you. which is why they would get pissed off.

glad youre so magnanimous as to suffer their existance. its just a difference in who theyre fucking, not a psychosis.

we don't call it a mental disorder, because people can be commited to insane asylums for mental disorders. people used to do that to gays you know.
Some are not willing to "suffer their existence." There is a proposed "Kill the gays" bill in Uganda. There is footage of some of that in the video. If you watch the video section dealing with Uganda, then you can see that Mr.Cohen is cited as an expert on the subject.

His alleged "expertise" is called into question in this interview.
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Some are not willing to "suffer their existence." There is a proposed "Kill the gays" bill in Uganda. There is footage of some of that in the video. If you watch the video section dealing with Uganda, then you can see that Mr.Cohen is cited as an expert on the subject.

His alleged "expertise" is called into question in this interview.
Not many people give a fuck what gays do ....

You just want to believe otherwise..

Yea the liberal media [CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS etc] loves to show any crazy ass anti-gay Christian to create the image that 'Christians' are the enemy of gays and they all want them dead... They want you to believe Christians are on some witch hunt for gays, thats not the case at all.

If you believe that shit then God help you.

I don't have to kiss gay ass or PROVE I like them by agreeing that homosexuality is normal... Whether it is or isn't doesn't matter just as long as they can function normally in society...

I do have a problem with the flamers though. I can deal with the fact flamers are gay but they go out of their way to let everyone know they're gay which is in turn shoving their gayness down my throat and causing a distraction.. Other then the flamers I don't have a problem with gays..

But hey in liberal land if you're not with them you're against them.
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Well according to liberals everything is "inherited" because then being fucked up is always someone else fault.

I was reading an article where some whackjob kook quack was trying to claim racism was genetic..

Nice.

This gay issue is a good example of where image is more important then reality...

What would you say if there was irrefutable proof gays were crazy???? would you call them crazy? I highly doubt it .... Would the establishment(s) call them crazy? I doubt that as well.
Its all about the image and being polite over truth...

Would you call a guy who fucks a horse crazy or sane?

I don't see any difference between a guy who fucks a horse or a guy who fucks another guy... for the simple fact you cant pro-create with either...But as a society we say one is ok and the other is batshit crazy.

Were creating the standards here and TRUTH doesn't mean jack shit anymore, just the image.

if there was incontravertible proof gays were insane, i'd call them insane. after all the proof is incontravertible. now wheres this proof?


wow. bestiality and homosexuality are two very very different things.

in case you hadn't noticed, sex feels great. i mean really fucking is just amazing. its for MORE than simple procreation.
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Not many people give a fuck what gays do ....

You just want to believe otherwise..

Yea the liberal media [CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS etc] loves to show any crazy ass anti-gay Christian to create the image that 'Christians' are the enemy of gays and they all want them dead... They want you to believe Christians are on some witch hunt for gays, thats not the case at all.

If you believe that shit then God help you.

I don't have to kiss gay ass or PROVE I like them by agreeing that homosexuality is normal... Whether it is or isn't doesn't matter just as long as they can function normally in society...

I do have a problem with the flamers though. I can deal with the fact flamers are gay but they go out of their way to let everyone know they're gay which is in turn shoving their gayness down my throat and causing a distraction.. Other then the flamers I don't have a problem with gays..

But hey in liberal land if you're not with them you're against them.
hey, you go outta your way to let everyone know youre A) straight b) conservative c) "don't give a fuck" d) that liberals suck/are stupid/are wrong etc and e) that youre a christian, so i'd say its about even.
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