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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Ummm...it doesn't matter if the woman was pro-choice. The only reason she is getting away with it is because of the pro-choice agenda and legislation. That's a plain and simple fact. No amount of smoke screen is going to change that.
    Gotta love phony conservatives.
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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Ummm...it doesn't matter if the woman was pro-choice. The only reason she is getting away with it is because of the pro-choice agenda and legislation. That's a plain and simple fact. No amount of smoke screen is going to change that.
    If you say so. All I see is a woman getting away with a crime because the law wasn't carefully worded enough which is why there is a movement to get it amended.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by CDavidNeely View Post
    If you say so. All I see is a woman getting away with a crime because the law wasn't carefully worded enough which is why there is a movement to get it amended.
    From the link in the OP:

    The Campbell County Sheriff’s Office and Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office worked unsuccessfully to get the law changed after another baby died in the county in a similar case. Emerson said they asked two delegates and one state senator to take the issue up in the General Assembly. He says the three lawmakers refused because they felt the issue was too close to the abortion issue.





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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by CDavidNeely View Post
    If you say so. All I see is a woman getting away with a crime because the law wasn't carefully worded enough which is why there is a movement to get it amended.
    It's perfectly in keeping with our crazy society, and changing the law won't change that fact.
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    Re: After birth abortion

    An awful appauling law and situation. I would hope that even most pro choice folks would find this unacceptable.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Observe how little attention this case has received. Now imagine that a man killed his wife and was free because of a similar loophole. Imagine that a white man killed a person of another race and was free because of a similar loophole. Imagine that a non-Muslim killed a Muslim and was free because of a similar loophole. Pretty soon you have to face the truth that the largely pro-choice media avoids stories like this because killing a brand new baby is so much like killing an almost born baby. It is so much like their make-believe constitutional right to do any cruel and vicious thing to kill a little human before birth, up to and including sucking a baby's brains out during birth.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. M View Post
    From the link in the OP:
    I'm trying to understand your point exactly: there's a huge irony in the news clip you provided. It's also something of a time bomb as well if it gets the press that it really should. There is something almost unreal in this story, but I'd like to see it dragged out into the open.

    Isn't an abortion completely illegal if it's past a certain point? I would think that "live birth" would certainly qualify. This idea of [any part still remaining] is uter bullshit in my view.

    Personally, I hate the whole idea myself as well. I'm not religious, but concidering the alternatives, I think that supplied safe - uhm - pregnancy termination (I don't even like the word) is a much better option. Sex ain't goin' away and neither will the terminations.

    I say, drag it out and see what happens.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pogo View Post
    It's perfectly in keeping with our crazy society, and changing the law won't change that fact.
    actually changing the law would fix the problem. because then when this sort of thing happens you get to give the crazy bitch the needle. or life in prison. i prefer the needle.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Holy crap, that's seriously messed up. The baby was born at 1am and found at 11am, so the mom just kinda chilled for ten hours with a dead baby attached to her?! Seriously creepy and seriously wrong. The loop hole should definitely be looked at and changed.
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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by CDavidNeely View Post
    The article makes absolutely no mention of the mother being pro-choice. I didn't read anything in the article that even comes close to making that statement. It simply says that the law in Virginia creates a loophole where the woman can't be charged with murder.

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    The fact that the baby died had nothing to do with anyone being pro-choice. It does have to do with the mother being very mentally disturbed, commiting a horrendous crime, and getting away without any penalties.
    Oh yes ... I'm sure she's pro-life. :rolleyes:

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    ... state law does not consider the baby to be a separate life.
    How far Virginia has come since it had laws allowing one person to own another. :rolleyes:

    Pure barbarism.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor View Post
    How far Virginia has come since it had laws allowing one person to own another. :rolleyes:
    Obviously this was just bad wording in the law. Virginia has pretty strict rules on abortion in comparison to a lot of other states.
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    Re: After birth abortion

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    Gotta love phony conservatives.
    What do you mean by "phony conservative"? Did you ride the short bus to school?
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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by CDavidNeely View Post
    If you say so. All I see is a woman getting away with a crime because the law wasn't carefully worded enough which is why there is a movement to get it amended.
    I do say so. It's no pro-life legislation that allowed this poorly worded law to be put into place. Tell me, wise one, who's agenda and legislation allowed it to get to this point in the first place? Fact is, you're dead wrong and now so is a newly born baby and it's killer gets off scott-free.
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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Commodore View Post
    Progressive liberalism is cruel barbarism.
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    Amen...
    :rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Please. This has nothing to do with liberalism or abortion.

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    Re: After birth abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Speakeasy View Post
    Obviously this was just bad wording in the law. Virginia has pretty strict rules on abortion in comparison to a lot of other states.
    Bad wording that has already been brought up to the legislature already and they didn't do anything about it. They are, obviously, to scared of pro-choice activism costing them their jobs.
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