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Old 12-26-2009
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After birth abortion

Baby was fully born, but Mommy was pro-choice and her choice was that Baby must die. So anxious was Mommy to kill Baby, that she didn't even bother to cut the umbilical cord.

The lifeline between Mother and child that had kept Baby alive for so long would prove to be a get out of jail free card for Mommy Dearest. According to Virginia law if a baby is fully born, but the umbilical cord is still attached, Mommy can kill baby and get away with it. And that's exactly what happened.

“In the state of Virginia as long as the umbilical cord is attached and the placenta is still in the mother, if the baby comes out alive the mother can do whatever she wants to with that baby to kill it,“ said Investigator Tracy Emerson. “She could shoot the baby, stab the baby. As long as it’s still attached to her in some form by umbilical cord or something it’s no crime in the state of Virginia."
Mother won't be charged in newborn baby's death | Lynchburg News Advance

Barbara Boxer (D-CA) has argued that any baby body part (head, toe, pinky) still in Mommy permits her to have the child legally killed.

B. Hussein Obama has argued that it is unconstitutional to require health care workers to try and save the life of a baby if the baby survived an abortion attempt on her life.

Is the Virginia loophole cruel barbarism or progressive liberalism? Or is it both?
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

She waited until the baby was born and then killed it? Wow. If she didn't want to keep the baby she could have put it up for adoption. How can you kill a human being who has been inside of you for months, feeling it growing and kicking you? That's something I will never understand.

That law just defies common sense. The baby was outside her womb at the time of the killing. It was alive. And it would still have been alive if she cut the umbilical cord. Apparently it was breathing on his own. At that point the umbilical cord isn't needed anymore to feed the baby or to keep it alive.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

That's some sick shit right there! I don't give a damn what Virginia says, that woman should be post birth aborted too.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

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Is the Virginia loophole cruel barbarism or progressive liberalism? Or is it both?
Progressive liberalism is cruel barbarism.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

Getting rid of unwanted babies helps us prepare to get rid of unwanted old folks.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Getting rid of unwanted babies helps us prepare to get rid of unwanted old folks.
Please tell me that you're joking.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Please tell me that you're joking.
I think I got it: He's referring to the "death panels" that will eventually drive hordes of honest old people by train to death camps to the sound of nostalgic violin music by some jewish guy whose name I forgot, this in the United Socialist America sometime real soon.

Oh my god, we're all doomed. This crazy lady is just the beginning.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

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Getting rid of unwanted babies helps us prepare to get rid of unwanted old folks.
You know, that's really a horse of a different color. I am probably the oldest person on this forum, and I have often wondered how it is that old people who are in horrible pain and trapped in nonfunctional bodys can't be allowed to end their own lives.

Old people have long been allowed to go out into the wilderness and die when they could no longer function or contribute to their tribe, civilization, or whatever you want to call it.

And for what it's worth, I am no Obama fan. But seriously, he has nothing to do with Virginia law. Nothing whatsoever.
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Old 12-27-2009
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Re: After birth abortion

As much as I'm in favor of a woman having the right to get an abortion (as much as I personally abhor the practice), this is wrong. The law really needs to be changed...
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This is disgusting. What's even more disgusting is that the legislature knows about this particular aspect of the law and they won't do anything to change it. They are almost as guilty as this woman of murder.
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Progressive liberalism is cruel barbarism.
Amen...
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I don't think any among us supports this law, regardless of how we feel about abortion. I can't imagine the good citizens of the state of Virginia are happy that the law exists either but it's up to them to protest it relentlessly. This sort of barbarism can't be allowed to exist in the US! Come on, Speakeasy, do your part and call your representatives!
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Re: After birth abortion

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I don't think any among us supports this law, regardless of how we feel about abortion. I can't imagine the good citizens of the state of Virginia are happy that the law exists either but it's up to them to protest it relentlessly. This sort of barbarism can't be allowed to exist in the US! Come on, Speakeasy, do your part and call your representatives!
As this issue had already been brought up to the legislature because another baby was murdered and they didn't even touch it, I think "good citizens" might be too generous for Virginians until they fix it.
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Re: After birth abortion

The article makes absolutely no mention of the mother being pro-choice. I didn't read anything in the article that even comes close to making that statement. It simply says that the law in Virginia creates a loophole where the woman can't be charged with murder.

None of these articles mention this fact either.
Mother Not Likely to Be Charged in Newborn Death|ABC 13
Pro-Life News: Virginia Infanticide, Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Australia, Abortion, ASCR
Baby's Death Inspires New Bill|ABC 13
Rescue Workers Hope For Law Change|ABC 13

Even that bastion of truthful reporting doesn't say anything about the woman being pro-choice.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=818768


The fact that the baby died had nothing to do with anyone being pro-choice. It does have to do with the mother being very mentally disturbed, commiting a horrendous crime, and getting away without any penalties.
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Re: After birth abortion

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The article makes absolutely no mention of the mother being pro-choice. I didn't read anything in the article that even comes close to making that statement. It simply says that the law in Virginia creates a loophole where the woman can't be charged with murder.

None of these articles mention this fact either.
Mother Not Likely to Be Charged in Newborn Death|ABC 13
Pro-Life News: Virginia Infanticide, Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Australia, Abortion, ASCR
Baby's Death Inspires New Bill|ABC 13
Rescue Workers Hope For Law Change|ABC 13

Even that bastion of truthful reporting doesn't say anything about the woman being pro-choice.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=818768


The fact that the baby died had nothing to do with anyone being pro-choice. It does have to do with the mother being very mentally disturbed, commiting a horrendous crime, and getting away without any penalties.
Ummm...it doesn't matter if the woman was pro-choice. The only reason she is getting away with it is because of the pro-choice agenda and legislation. That's a plain and simple fact. No amount of smoke screen is going to change that.
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