Thread: Homosexuals and polygamy

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

My mom is also a nurse, what do you know!

She comes home with stories about black people with stabbings, gunshot wounds, and and drug addictions.

See what I'm getting at? But I wouldn't use it to paint an entire minority or use it as a reason to take away their rights.

That's a weak analogy. Once again you compare sexual preference to color of skin.

Originally Posted by Aarstad

Did she get the gayness confirmed, or did she just assume that everyone coming in with household items up the rear end was gay?

I find it likely that a lot of straight guys give it a go, too. I mean, men who fancy women but are ridiculously bored.

Well, when their lover's come in with them, that's usually a give away.


BTW, I've heard of supposedly straight men who like objects up their rear ends. Seems to me they are bordering on bisexual curiosity.

Originally Posted by panteth4H2o

Well, when their lover's come in with them, that's usually a give away.


BTW, I've heard of supposedly straight men who like objects up their rear ends. Seems to me they are bordering on bisexual curiosity.

Bringing your male lover along with an object stuck in your rectum would make that a safe bet, yes.

And isn't there something about the prostate? Is it a "gland"? (Will read up on that later.) I don't know/care if the gay/straight thing is a black-and-white matter or not, or that it makes sense to say the rectum is a "homosexual organ" - you'd have to believe someone sat down and designed the human form with crazy stuff like that in mind for it to make sense - but I can understand the desire for enhancing a sexual experience. I know this is a little off-topic, just interested in what's going on here.

Originally Posted by Aarstad

- but I can understand the desire for enhancing a sexual experience. I know this is a little off-topic, just interested in what's going on here.

I had to laugh at that one, man.

Originally Posted by panteth4H2o

That's a weak analogy. Once again you compare sexual preference to color of skin.

Once again, you refuse to acknowledge that sexual orientation is an identity by which the LGBT community identifies.

Is religion mutable? You bet it is. But that doesn't mean that religious people shouldn't be protected against discrimination. Even if gays could change, being able to change from one status to another does not change the fact that all American citizens are protected by the 14th Amendment.

That said, it wouldn't matter what you think they do in their bedrooms. It has nothing to do with the question of marriage.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

Hey just as a curiosity, for the record, when did you decide to become heterosexual?

I've avoided this long enough. I decided to become heterosexual when I was five years old. I traded my holster for my cap pistol for a "look" at the girl that lived across the street. It began a lifelong obsession with the female body. If anyone from this forum tells on me I'll deny it.

Originally Posted by panteth4H2o

My wife used to be an ER Nurse. She used to come home with stories about gay men with candles stuck up their rear ends, polyps that had to be surgically removed, or stories about failed rectums on gay patients having to wear "crap bags" or whatever you call them.

I do not understand the obsession with what some gays do. I'm not accussing you here, but I do see a pattern of trying to "vilify" a group of people due to the actions of some. I do see this over and over again.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

What you have written is completely preposterous. You've invented a Rube Goldberg type of logical framework to support a bigoted position.

"A homosexual woman is free to marry a homosexual man."

..................... I don't even think its worth responding to someone who can state that and think they're making sense. To ignore the fact that consumation of a marriage means having SEX with your spouse is absurd.



Oh about a thousand things would still be different, such as all of the legal issues and estate laws regarding spouses. Right now a man and woman can live together and they aren't considered married unless they actually get married, right? If the man dies without leaving a will, his live-in girlfriend doesn't get his estate. Nor did she qualify for insurance discounts or spousal insurance coverage, or the right to file jointly, etc etc. Nor does she become the primary custodian of his children.

Your paragraph I quote here (above) almost shows you 'get it'. The main problem you have is you consider it an extreme situation, and most people consider it a normal situation that logically the easiest way to resolve the issue is to legalize marriage for any 2 people without regard to gender or sexual orientation.



This is complete BS, because if that's what you're genuinely afraid of, then theres only about 50 million male-female couples living together who could already do this .... but for some strange reason they don't. I wonder why? BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS MARRIAGE IS MORE BINDING THAN A WINK.



It would certainly only make sense to allow people to marry someone of the gender they are sexually attracted to, but I guess I'm old fashioned like that. I don't see how that is "special dispensation". Its common sense, in complete contrast with your grand idea that gay men can freely marry gay women.

Are you sure that marriage is more "binding than a wink"? Is that REALLY the case? Would it, in essence, be factual if one were to claim that marriage had some kind of special place in society? Is that what you're getting at?

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

Once again, you refuse to acknowledge that sexual orientation is an identity by which the LGBT community identifies.

Who said I refused to acknowledge that? Their identity with sexual orientation or sexual preference is the reason why I don't embrace their movement. That's all I ever hear about, their sexual identity and lifestyle. Why do I want to embrace the lifestyle and cause of bisexuality? :rolleyes:

And if I don't care to know about straight peoples' sexual practices, why do I want to be bombarded about the sexual identies of LGBT's?

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

That said, it wouldn't matter what you think they do in their bedrooms. It has nothing to do with the question of marriage.

And where exactly does it stop, after that? You actually think that gays only want marriage? The motives of the LGBT goes a lot further than that. Nothing like reading news stories about them wanting to be included in school text books or wanting to fight churches against not hiring them. That's when they start making their lifestyle everyone else's business.

I used to not have much of an opinion about their lifestyle. But it's increasingly becoming shown on television to the point where I can't even watch commercial breaks or entertainment programs without seeing two guys or girls kissing, especially while small kids are watching evening TV. Gee, that's always fun to watch.

Not everyone is as open to their cause as you are.

Originally Posted by compote_tom

I do not understand the obsession with what some gays do. I'm not accussing you here, but I do see a pattern of trying to "vilify" a group of people due to the actions of some. I do see this over and over again.

I don't villify gays. But many of them do have a particular lifestyle that many people find to be perverted. The OP provided an article on the percentages, which did not surprise hardly anyone here. And I never said that all gays are like that.

But I know what goes on within certain realms of the gay lifestyle. Because I've been told by other gays. That's part of the reason why I no longer befriend them much, because they eventually give too much info that I don't want to know.

I don't mind having a cordial relationship with them, as long as they keep their private lives to themselves. A few of them I have befriended, without any mention of their personal lives at all. I can respect that. And to be honest, I don't care to know much about anyone's personal lives, even if they are straight. It's childish and perverted to know anymore than I need to know.

But it may surprise you that I don't support a federal amendment to ban gay marriage. That's going way too far. I only support the right of a state to decide for themselves. I'm not on any kind of anti-gay crusade.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Are you sure that marriage is more "binding than a wink"? Is that REALLY the case? Would it, in essence, be factual if one were to claim that marriage had some kind of special place in society? Is that what you're getting at?

Obviously Marriage is more binding than a wink. There are hundreds of thousands of court rulings on issues of marriage. There probably aren't any court rulings on a wink.

Marriage is a special ceremony, and has a role for society in showing that two people who love each other want to commit to spending their lives together.

Two people who love each other and get married as a result do not diminish the role of marriage in society.

Originally Posted by panteth4H2o

Not everyone is as open to their cause as you are.

I think that's obvious.

Gay people are part of this World and you are just going to have to get used to it or stay as frustrated as you are that they don't want to be shunned from civil society.

Gay people obviously just irrationally sicken you and by definition that makes you a homophobe and a bigot.

I've been called a filthy Arab before when in fact I'm a Mizrachi Jew, especially right after 9-11. Seething ignorance is something all too common in "the land of the free." This is what happens with irrational hate, people excuse themselves of having any sympathy for the target minority's struggles for equal rights. Bigotry is a problem all around, and I do my part to fight it, whether that's here or in phone calls to my reps.

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

Gay people obviously just irrationally sicken you and by definition that makes you a homophobe and a bigot.

Ah, yes. So you are the first to resort to child name calling and personal attacks. (which by the way don't bother me.)

My apologies for your intolerance.