Thread: Homosexuals and polygamy

Originally Posted by Steve

It doesn't matter.

They're gay.

Heterosexuals marrying does not benefit homosexuals. As you find fault with the effect that gay marriage would have, surely you're man enough to admit the obvious; that being that heterosexual marriage benefits only heterosexuals.

Right?

Heterosexual marriage, in fact, does benefit homosexuals. See, the way the world works, Steve, there would be no homosexuals if not for heterosexuals.

Originally Posted by lutherf

I'll be quite honest about this. I haven't been everywhere and I haven't met everyone but I can tell you that every single time I have met a married person they were married to a person of the opposite sex. There is, I have found, a reason for that phenomena.....


...IT'S BECAUSE THE TERM "MARRIAGE" IS USED TO DEFINE THE UNION OF ONE MAN TO ONE WOMAN!!!

My best friend's ex-wife is happily married to her wife going on 5 years now. She and her wife got married in my friend's back yard. You need to get out more.

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

All having sexual compatability within each couple, and all having a lifelong committment to each other. Hmmm no man+woman combination required when you view it that way is there?

You totally lost me there. I said "all little H2O couples". I didn't say "Mostly H2O couples but mixed in with a few CO2 couples and and a few NH4 couples, then, of course, we always have a bunch of N2O couples".

Originally Posted by compote_tom

Steve I wondered where you were you are usually active in this debate.
Question do you consider yourself a conservative? Wouldn't allowing individuals to make their own choices be a conservative position? Just a thought.

I'm a radical left-wing conservative. I want gays to be able to marry, but I want them to be heavily armed...

Originally Posted by lutherf

Heterosexual marriage, in fact, does benefit homosexuals.

No, it doesn't...

Originally Posted by Disillusioned_1

Marriage is a common link between two people that love each other enough they want to spend their lives together.

You're hung up on this man and woman together thing. Why is that aspect so important to you to the exclusion of all other factors? Does the lifelong committment part mean nothing to you? Does the love part not mean anything to you? You're cheapening the definition of marriage by strictly making it about a dick and a pussy and failing to recognize that there is a hell of a lot more to a marriage than that. In reality dick and pussy dont have anything to do with marriage. Sex does. Committment does. Love does. Gays can have exactly those same characteristics as couples, thus marriage between gays is completely rational.

All having sexual compatability within each couple, and all having a lifelong committment to each other. Hmmm no man+woman combination required when you view it that way is there?

Excellent post. Couldn't have said it better.

Originally Posted by lutherf

Heterosexual marriage, in fact, does benefit homosexuals. See, the way the world works, Steve, there would be no homosexuals if not for heterosexuals.

Are you saying that heterosexuals are dangerous to society because they sometimes create homosexuals

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

Are you saying that heterosexuals are dangerous to society because they sometimes create homosexuals

God: "And so it has come to this. These humans often give themselves over to unholy desires and now entire populations are accepting and encouraging each other to engage in unholy activities. I've seen this before. I've cleaned up the most unholy messes these people make of themselves before. These humans obviously will never learn. A little more time I can give them...."

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

God: "And so it has come to this. These humans often give themselves over to unholy desires and now entire populations are accepting and encouraging each other to engage in unholy activities. I've seen this before. I've cleaned up the most unholy messes these people make of themselves before. These humans obviously will never learn. A little more time I can give them...."

I'm Jewish, so don't you preach to me from your God-forsaken "Bible."

What you say is "God" I say is some 1st century kook who didn't have a better use of his time.

Yet another thing I can't stand about Evangelical Christians. It's the seething arrogant superiority complex as if your personal belief in "God" should be forced on everyone else. Far from it, the World is much more diverse in its beliefs than your narrow interpretation of that 1st century text. You are no better of a position to say that your beliefs are the truth than a Hindu in India, a religion which by the way says absolutely nothing about homosexuality.

Here is one you should relish though:

Originally Posted by Ephesians 6:5-9

"Slaves, be obedient to those who are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in the sincerity of your heart, as to Christ."

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

I'm Jewish, so don't you preach to me from your God-forsaken "Bible."

So, you're "jewish," so what ?

The Bible isn't "[my] godforsaken" anything. It's not mine at all, it's everybodies.

You obviously harbor some kind of hatred for it. That's your own issue that has nothing to do with this one.

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

What you say is "God" I say is some 1st century kook who didn't have a better use of his time.

You obviously harbor some kind of hatred for the bible. That's your own issue that has nothing to do with this one.

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

Yet another thing I can't stand about Evangelical Christians. It's the seething arrogant superiority complex as if your personal belief in "God" should be forced on everyone else. Far from it, the World is much more diverse in its beliefs than your narrow interpretation of that 1st century text. You are no better of a position to say that your beliefs are the truth than a Hindu in India, a religion which by the way says absolutely nothing about homosexuality.

The point you're trying to make could have been said much more quickly. You really don't care for people who believe in the Christian faith. You make the exact same excuses for your nasty feelings for these people as can be made for any group of people of any belief system.

That I was able to bait you into expressing your true feelings and how and why you support an obviously dangerous "lifestyle" by making up my own quotation from God is quite amusing actually. God is surely infinitely more patient and tolerant of the foolishness of humanity than I would be, so my imagined statement was only that, a statement by a person trying to guess what God might be thinking. Most assuredly incorrect as well.


It served its purpose though

Originally Posted by Captain Trips

So, you're "jewish," so what ?

The Bible isn't "[my] godforsaken" anything. It's not mine at all, it's everybodies.

You obviously harbor some kind of hatred for it. That's your own issue that has nothing to do with this one.

For all the Jews who were burned at the stake, murdered, tortured, victimized, and expelled from their home countries because of it? Yeah... I do.

So don't talk down to me with your obviously arrogant superiority complex you have with your "God" and "Bible."

The point you're trying to make could have been said much more quickly. You really don't care for people who believe in the Christian faith. You make the exact same excuses for your nasty feelings for these people as can be made for any group of people of any belief system.

For every quote you attempt to vilify a minority with, I will visit upon you another one which highlights the Bible's endorsement of slavery, child abuse, or genocide, and yes I know where they all are

While your fabricated quote was your own lies, my exposure of the Bible's endorsement of slavery was in fact quite real.

That I was able to bait you into expressing your true feelings and how and why you support an obviously dangerous "lifestyle" by making up my own quotation from God is quite amusing actually. God is surely infinitely more patient and tolerant of the foolishness of humanity than I would be, so my imagined statement was only that, a statement by a person trying to guess what God might be thinking. Most assuredly incorrect as well.

It served its purpose though

You sure were brave, but foolish, in admitting an attempt at baiting, which is a violation of the Code of Conduct on this forum.

You arrogantly impersonated a prophet and lied about the word of the Christian Bible in an attempt to attack and denigrate your fellow human being, and if the Bible is something you truly believe in, those are sins you will have to pay for in Hell.

Originally Posted by LetFreedomRing

I'm Jewish, so don't you preach to me from your God-forsaken "Bible."

What you say is "God" I say is some 1st century kook who didn't have a better use of his time.

Yet another thing I can't stand about Evangelical Christians. It's the seething arrogant superiority complex as if your personal belief in "God" should be forced on everyone else. Far from it, the World is much more diverse in its beliefs than your narrow interpretation of that 1st century text. You are no better of a position to say that your beliefs are the truth than a Hindu in India, a religion which by the way says absolutely nothing about homosexuality.

Here is one you should relish though:

hey um dude... christianity, judaism, and islam are all faiths that worship, and get this cause its the important part, THE SAME GOD. HAHAHAAHAHAHa. hilarious right? cause you'd think that if they worshipped the same god they'd do it the same way, but it turns out back in the day they didn't exactly have the internet or telephones so it was hard for isolated groups, say that draw their beliefs from their patriarch who was exiled for being a bastard son of another groups patriarch. add in various historical events, and miraculous happenings etc and youve got a totally different take on worshipping the same creator. Throw in an historical figure believed to be the prophisied messiah in the mother text (you'd know this as the torah yes? ) and the smashing success of subsequent cult that arose from this and youve got ANOTHER religion that spreads to other regions of the world and adds its own myths as they happen.
shit dude i mean trips didn't even quote the bible at you. ease off the throttle a little yeah?

Originally Posted by reality

hey um dude... christianity, judaism, and islam are all faiths that worship, and get this cause its the important part, THE SAME GOD. HAHAHAAHAHAHa. hilarious right? cause you'd think that if they worshipped the same god they'd do it the same way, but it turns out back in the day they didn't exactly have the internet or telephones so it was hard for isolated groups, say that draw their beliefs from their patriarch who was exiled for being a bastard son of another groups patriarch. add in various historical events, and miraculous happenings etc and youve got a totally different take on worshipping the same creator. Throw in an historical figure believed to be the prophisied messiah in the mother text (you'd know this as the torah yes? ) and the smashing success of subsequent cult that arose from this and youve got ANOTHER religion that spreads to other regions of the world and adds its own myths as they happen.
shit dude i mean trips didn't even quote the bible at you. ease off the throttle a little yeah?

I'm an atheist first of all. I don't believe in the Toothfairy. I don't believe in God.

I'm sick of seeing people trying to use religion to justify prejudice.