Thread: Gay Marriage - a possible solution for all sides

Originally Posted by Jefe

Guess what - animals can be gay. It's reality, and it's biology, and it blows your argument out of the water:

Can Animals Be Gay? - NYTimes.com

Not really. Its only females, one of which coupled with a male. Society could encourage lesbian females to marry so when they become pregnant from affairs with males, the children have the benefit of a stable home with two adults to provide and care for them, but what would be the point? Biological parents are preferred because their children tend to do better than children raised by only one or none of their bilogical parents. Ive not seen any evidence that children raised by lesbian parents do better than childrens whose parents are not lesbians.

Originally Posted by Unique POV

Yes.... they argue nature, until it is inevitably pointed out the homosexual behavior occurs throughout every spectrum of the animal kingdom. Then we are told that humans are supposed to be better than the rest of the animal kingdom. They have to contradict their own arguement; which often happens when your arguement is completely invalid.

Nooooo. The comparison was between nesting and marriage. Yes, two gay male penguins can build a nest and sit on a rock, aping their heterosexual counterparts but there really wouldnt be any point in government encouraging and subdidizing the behavior.

Ive pointed out before, absent societal, cultural, traditional, legal and religious constraints on human sexuality, human sexuality would probably resemble that of bonobo chimps where sex is frequent, with many different partners of both sexes and the raising of offspring is purely the domain of females.

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

A few questions as I'm walking out the door to go play darts.....could one of you anti-gay people please tell me exactly how allowing gay marriage will affect you personally? Will it destroy the sanctity of your own marriage (if you're married)? How will it hurt the country as a whole especially since some are arguing that not that many gays get married in states where it's allowed in the first place?
I'm really interested in hearing the answers to these questions.

Precisely the same effect that marriage between my left hand and I would have on you.

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Not really. Its only females, one of which coupled with a male. Society could encourage lesbian females to marry so when they become pregnant from affairs with males, the children have the benefit of a stable home with two adults to provide and care for them, but what would be the point? Biological parents are preferred because their children tend to do better than children raised by only one or none of their bilogical parents. Ive not seen any evidence that children raised by lesbian parents do better than childrens whose parents are not lesbians.

Read the whole article. There have also been documented cases of male dolphins doing each other in the blowhole, and male orangutans fellating each other. Nice try, though. Gay animals are a reality. It's biology.

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Precisely the same effect that marriage between my left hand and I would have on you.

So in other words you're saying that gay marriage will have no effect on you at all ... so why then do you oppose it?

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Not really. Its only females, one of which coupled with a male. Society could encourage lesbian females to marry so when they become pregnant from affairs with males, the children have the benefit of a stable home with two adults to provide and care for them, but what would be the point? Biological parents are preferred because their children tend to do better than children raised by only one or none of their bilogical parents. Ive not seen any evidence that children raised by lesbian parents do better than childrens whose parents are not lesbians.

They haven't had the chance to try, so you won't get much of a study.

On the other hand, I seen and read about many abused children from hetero homes.....so you could say that lesbians are better parents based on the percentages.

Originally Posted by Jefe

Read the whole article. There have also been documented cases of male dolphins doing each other in the blowhole, and male orangutans fellating each other. Nice try, though. Gay animals are a reality. It's biology.

anyone growing up on a farm or raising animals will know this to be true.....dogs, cats and etc all do it.

Originally Posted by noahath

So in other words you're saying that gay marriage will have no effect on you at all ... so why then do you oppose it?

Same reason you oppose marriage for my left hand and I.

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Same reason you oppose marriage for my left hand and I.

Marriage is consent of 2 adults...so unless your hand developed a brain and can speak.......

Originally Posted by Jefe

Read the whole article. There have also been documented cases of male dolphins doing each other in the blowhole, and male orangutans fellating each other. Nice try, though. Gay animals are a reality. It's biology.

Your point? No one denies homosexual behavior can be found in nature. Step away from the strawman if you can.

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Your point? No one denies homosexual behavior can be found in nature. Step away from the strawman if you can.

Lol.. You're the one who keeps presenting the strawmen and fallacious arguments. Again, nice try... but nobody's buying it.

Originally Posted by dixon76710

Same reason you oppose marriage for my left hand and I.

Nice dodge. Actually, nice non-answer.

Originally Posted by headbanger

They haven't had the chance to try, so you won't get much of a study.

On the other hand, I seen and read about many abused children from hetero homes.....so you could say that lesbians are better parents based on the percentages.

Well, you could say that but you wouldnt have any basis to make such a statement.