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    GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

    Again, not caring about jobs, deficits nor the economy, Rep Pence, Indiana republican, brings up a bill to end money to those organizations having anything to do with abortion. Taking money away from those that would provide education about birth control, aid and support of pregnant teens, simply to make another wedge issue a platform to forward himself as a 'true' leader and attract fringe, radical people on the right for his goal of presidential elections.

    Pence introduces anti-abortion bill ahead of conservative gathering – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    (CNN) - Rep. Mike Pence, the Indiana congressman who is considering a presidential bid, introduced an anti-abortion bill Friday that is certain to be greeted fondly by many Republicans ahead of his attendance at a conservative gathering in South Carolina this weekend.

    The measure, which has 122 cosponsors and is called the Title X Abortion Provider Prohibition Act, seeks to ban federal funding for other services to organizations that perform abortions. The government is already banned from using Title X funds for abortions, but this bill–a version of which was first introduced two years ago–would expand the restrictions.
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    I am absolutely in favor of a woman having the freedom to choose an abortion if she sees fit. I am also absolutely in favor of severing federal funding for abortions.

    Believe it or not, it's actuall possible to educate people on birth control without also providing abortion services.

    If a woman elects to have an abortion, that's fine; that should be her right. But she should be willing and able to pay for it...

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    I've not said anything other than what you post. This is from CNN, about those agencies that provide pre-natal care, birth control information, help for un-wed mothers and other help, but also provide for abortion advice and referring to doctors. It is also just another politico using a wedge issue to gain the attention of the far-right.

    And to do this when they should be working on jobs, the economy and actually working to change those things in the health care law that they see as a problem. Not these fringe issues and spending time and money reading part of the Constitution, and playing games in the House about doing the impossible task of repealing health care, even those parts they have wanted for years.
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    It's possible to provide a myriad of services without providing taxpayer funded abortions. All these organizations have to do is stop providing abortions, and they can get their federal funding. I am absolutely in favor of that.

    I'm also in favor of women having access to abortions if that's their choice. But there's simply no reasonable argument as to why taxpayers should foot the bill...

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    I will go back to "W"s administration for this issue. Under "W", we stopped money from going to agencies in 3rd world countries, because the agencies were teaching birth control other than abstinence. The end result was more unwanted pregnancies and children that families could not feed.

    This is just another example of that. I think that we all agree that abortions is the worst of all choices. Birth control is far, far better. So why under or not funding of those agencies that provide this service, along with pre-natal care, and advice about all of the possible choices, including informed abortion?
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    Re: GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

    please provide us with the source and amount of tax payers dollars providing abortions.
    only private insurance will cover this, if you have that type of coverage.
    to live is to suffer-Fritz lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConLib View Post
    I will go back to "W"s administration for this issue.
    Of course you will, because you'd probably lose sleep if you weren't able to bitch about Bush...

    This is just another example of that. I think that we all agree that abortions is the worst of all choices. Birth control is far, far better. So why under or not funding of those agencies that provide this service, along with pre-natal care, and advice about all of the possible choices, including informed abortion?
    I don't have a problem with federal funding for agencies which counsel on abortion and other options. Any agency which provides them, though, and receives federal funding, should be cut off...

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    Re: GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

    so shoudld pro-life counselors
    to live is to suffer-Fritz lang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    so shoudld pro-life counselors
    So shoudld [sic] they what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    So shoudld [sic] they what?
    Have, their funds cut off or ended.
    to live is to suffer-Fritz lang

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    Have, their funds cut off or ended.
    Why?

    Would you also cut off all federal funding for all other forms of reproductive counseling, as well?

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    Re: GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Why?

    Would you also cut off all federal funding for all other forms of reproductive counseling, as well?
    why not. i don't think people are so dumb they can't figure it out for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    why not. i don't think people are so dumb they can't figure it out for themselves.
    Cutting it all off works for me, as well...

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    Re: GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

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    It's possible to provide a myriad of services without providing taxpayer funded abortions. All these organizations have to do is stop providing abortions, and they can get their federal funding. I am absolutely in favor of that.

    I'm also in favor of women having access to abortions if that's their choice. But there's simply no reasonable argument as to why taxpayers should foot the bill...
    I can't think of any reasonable argument why they should NOT.

    EVERY pregnancy threatens a woman's life, ask any doctor

    If a woman wants to have almost any other operation to head off a crisis which threatens her life then public assistance will cover it. How is abortion different?

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    Re: GOP Tearing at Minor Issues to Attract Fringe

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    Cutting it all off works for me, as well...
    me too, and churches and all religions should be taxed. No more tax free existence.
    to live is to suffer-Fritz lang

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