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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    Quote Originally Posted by fishjoel View Post
    Any lengthening of the school year should proportionally increase their pay. Every single day. So if they only get extended by a week then they still get a pay increase even though it was only 5 days. You'd have to calculate out what % that is though. If the school year moved to year around then the equation would give them a substantial raise, indeed.
    I disagree. As salaried employees working a full time job over a full year, if the school year is lengthened, it should just be offset by fewer of those goddamn inservice days and other after-hours obligations.

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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    I disagree. As salaried employees working a full time job over a full year, if the school year is lengthened, it should just be offset by fewer of those goddamn inservice days and other after-hours obligations.
    If they work more days then they should be paid more. It's as simple as that. They don't get paid as much because they have so many days off and I don't have a problem with that.
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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    Quote Originally Posted by pramjockey View Post
    I was just pointing out that there was research indicating that there were exceptions. Because there are always exceptions. Because the markets are irrational. And inefficient.
    The "research" to which you linked didn't actually cite any exceptions to Gresham's Law, as it is widely applied. Instead, they made up some erroneous definition of what Gresham's Law supposedly means, and then argued against that.

    It appears to me that you have already made up your mind that markets are irrational and inefficient, and that my evidence to the contrary, no matter how well presented, will be ignored. We will just have to agree to disagree.
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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    I think schooling all year round is probably a good idea, if only to compete with the rest of the world.

    We aren't so much a farming and harvesting nation anymore, there's no longer any need to have the summers off.

    That said, the need to keep the lights on, is gonna cost more...which I am sorry to say will increase taxes.

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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingNorthTX View Post
    I think schooling all year round is probably a good idea, if only to compete with the rest of the world.

    We aren't so much a farming and harvesting nation anymore, there's no longer any need to have the summers off.

    That said, the need to keep the lights on, is gonna cost more...which I am sorry to say will increase taxes.
    There was a while ago an experiment with year round schooling.

    As I recall it had the same number of days teaching but with the breaks spread out. That way all classrooms would be used all the time, just at break times it could be a different class.

    The educational advantage was that the kids did not regress over an extended summer break.

    The main drawback as I see it is family vacations, if you had two or three kids it might be impossible to get time off for all the kids at the same period for a family trip without taking a kid out of class.
    I always find it strange that only reasonable people agree with me.

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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    Quote Originally Posted by KingNorthTX View Post
    I think schooling all year round is probably a good idea, if only to compete with the rest of the world.

    We aren't so much a farming and harvesting nation anymore, there's no longer any need to have the summers off.

    That said, the need to keep the lights on, is gonna cost more...which I am sorry to say will increase taxes.
    We could off set those costs by turning off the heat and forcing kids to wear sweaters

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    Re: How much should public school teachers make?

    I am for a solid base pay of 80% of what households get, because there is some work necessary in the summer, and a great deal of "homework" the teachers have to do daily (grading papers, parent reports, class prep, and after school conferences). Added to this there should be bonus pay for better performance and higher test scores. I am not really fond of the tenure system as it is, and it should be easier to fire bad teachers. Teaching is not a profession, it is a calling. We owe average teachers for the hours they put in. What we owe the good teachers, we could never pay. Trying to put a price on what a good teacher accomplishes is pointless, I am Ok with whatever they make as long as it works for them.
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