Does this ass make my truck look big?

**michael h** · 10-05-2011

Originally Posted by Hoplite

To be fair, its often a very liberating feeling being able to talk openly about yourself if you're anything aside from what the perceptual norm is.

And people do go around announcing your heterosexuality, perhaps not in that direct a way, but it's still announced. A woman talking about her husband and son is announcing that not only is she probably heterosexual, she's had sex at least once in her lifetime.

When I started coming to terms with being polyamorous, it wasn't something I felt comfortable discussing in public because it got such a negative reaction (usually after I explained it). I couldnt talk about my relationships because doing so would have announced that I was not monogamous to others and they would have reacted negatively. When I got to a point where I felt comfortable talking about it openly, it was a very freeing feeling not to have to constantly censor yourself.

Additionally, we need to consider that what we might call "flaunting" is actually the same kind of talking patterns that most of us engage in every day but because most of us are heterosexual, it doesnt trip any red flags as being odd. We discuss subjects that bring up our sexuality, even in passing, pretty frequently but we dont accuse each other of "flaunting" our heterosexuality because we're used to talking like that.

Little off-topic, but I just wanted to make that distinction.

As for the OP, the discrimination card is a favorite trick for any side. Criticize Israel around Republicans and someone will pull the "anti-Semitic" card on you. Criticize Kent Hovind around a group of Evangelicals and someone will probably accuse you of being "anti-Christian." It's a favorite because it works; the vast majority of people are NOT hugely discriminatory people and we live in a society where being accepting is DRILLED into you from a very early age so there is a natural reflex to stay away from anything that could make you look prejudiced. The accusation of being prejudiced is, like being called an addict, extremely difficult to fight because it's entirely subjective and the view of others is what makes you prejudiced. You can sputter and deny it, but that looks like trying to lie your way out of being caught.

I tend to ignore the accusation. Unless you have something overwhelming to quickly respond (IE: Being accused of being anti-Semitic while actually being Jewish), engaging it generally side-tracks a discussion which is another reason it's used; if you can attack the person making a claim then their claim becomes invalid, at least in most people's minds.

As much as this complaint comes up, I have a hard time actually finding very many of these people. I don't debate that they exist, but I don't think there's a massive movement to call any opposition to Obama racist and I don't see any real solid indication that this is the case.

Having already dealt with actually caring about what others might think ... I wonder how people can deal with the shit all day. Am I appearing to be prejudiced by my actions or am I giving in to the pressure of others wanting me to be apologetic for the color of my skin. I offended a family member one time and for the fuck of me I have no clue how I offended them. My attitude was ... who the fuck are you ... that I've got to walk around all damn day, worrying that I offended you.

That's racism's catch. Your supposed to tiptoe around everyone's ass on the issue of race. On the other hand if you accept people want you to tiptoe and you reject that notion ... now your supposed to keep fuckin score of how many times you might have tiptoed.

Either your apologizing or keeping score and that's waaaaaaaaaaaay to much work.

**Jasper** · 10-05-2011

Originally Posted by Hoplite

As much as this complaint comes up, I have a hard time actually finding very many of these people. I don't debate that they exist, but I don't think there's a massive movement to call any opposition to Obama racist and I don't see any real solid indication that this is the case.

I certainly do.

I recall people who opposed Obamacare being labeled "racists".

"Racist" is a term most often spewed by those whose arguments have been defeated and whose positions are irrational.

**Mrs. M** · 10-05-2011

Originally Posted by Hoplite

As much as this complaint comes up, I have a hard time actually finding very many of these people. I don't debate that they exist, but I don't think there's a massive movement to call any opposition to Obama racist and I don't see any real solid indication that this is the case.

Here's a story for ya:

Maya Rodriguez / Eyewitness News

NEW ORLEANS -- There are several political signs attracting all kinds of attention in one Uptown neighborhood.

On Wednesday, crowds gathered at the corner of Calhoun and Coralie streets, looking at several signs depicting President Barack Obama as either a dunce, a puppet or a crying baby in a diaper.

"It disrespects the nation -- and President Barack Obama represents our nation," said Skip Alexander, as he looked at one of the signs. "He represents everybody, not some people."

Dozens of protesters came by the house in the 1500 block of Calhoun throughout the day, demanding the sign come down.

"He wouldn't do that to [President] Bush, I'm sure. It's just insulting. It's insulting," said C.C. Campbell-Rock. "He's going to have to take them down."

"This is nothing put pure racism," said Raymond Rock. "This is a disgrace."

The home is owned by Timothy Reily, who declined to be interviewed about the signs. Former Mayor Ray Nagin showed up at the house and went inside to speak with Reily. He emerged later and would not comment on what they discussed.

http://www.wwltv.com/home/Controvers...130727418.html

**Hoplite** · 10-05-2011

Originally Posted by michael h

Having already dealt with actually caring about what others might think ... I wonder how people can deal with the shit all day. Am I appearing to be prejudiced by my actions or am I giving in to the pressure of others wanting me to be apologetic for the color of my skin. I offended a family member one time and for the fuck of me I have no clue how I offended them. My attitude was ... who the fuck are you ... that I've got to walk around all damn day, worrying that I offended you.

That's racism's catch. Your supposed to tiptoe around everyone's ass on the issue of race. On the other hand if you accept people want you to tiptoe and you reject that notion ... now your supposed to keep fuckin score of how many times you might have tiptoed.

Either your apologizing or keeping score and that's waaaaaaaaaaaay to much work.

Actually I just prefer to live my life and not worry about it. Race and racism has never been a big issue with me and that's true of the vast majority of people unless they get really upset about something and use it as a cheap shot.

Originally Posted by Road Dog

I certainly do.

I recall people who opposed Obamacare being labeled "racists".

"Racist" is a term most often spewed by those whose arguments have been defeated and whose positions are irrational.

Yeah, I do too. But I recall those being an incredibly small number of people.

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

Here's a story for ya:

See my previous sentence.

**Q of U** · 10-05-2011

Is this racist?
About 20 years ago a friend related this story to me.
He was hired by a rich guy as a landscaper, later when the rich guy needed a maid he referred his niece and she was hired.
One day when he was working in the yard and his niece was cleaning the house she leans out the window and yells down to him "Master loves the house N's better than the yard N's." They both had a good laugh. But was that racist? Both people were white no one took offense and no one besides themselves heard as they were the only ones there. In my opinion they were only making fun of themselves but I am a little curious what the forum members think.

**Agentorange** · 10-06-2011

Originally Posted by Mrs. M

How? I simply meant that if you can purchase the same sticker with a white politician's face on it, how does putting a black person's face on it make it racist? It's really no different than all the times Bush was referred to as a chimp but now it's racist to refer to Obama as one...both of them have big ears but because of the color of Obama's skin it's not PC to do it to him....:rolleyes:

bolding mine for emphasis.

That wasn't rascist in my opinion. Speciest possibly.....