Thread: Planned Parenthood Bombed

BTW...I still think Bill Ayers or one of his Weather Underground buddies did this bombing. They've been know to do bombings on US soil in the past.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Well, until we can figure out a way to pull a fetus out and incubate it until it can live w/o external help, you're still killing a life. Anyways, I'm glad you conceded the point that you didn't make your statement based on science.

I didn't concede shit.

Stop making ridiculous assumptions.

As far as incubating it, why? Its a human being according to you; let it live or die on its own . I really don't care which happens.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

I don't know what we could do about it. I don't believe we should force the embryos on people but maybe we could have a program that could incentivize women to voluntarily be surrogate.

So you shouldn't force a woman to carry a fetus? She should be able to decide on how her womb is used?
So the woman has rights, but those rights evaporate when she consents to sex, is that it?

And they do have programs to "rescue snowflake babies", and so far they have resulted in 134 births worldwide, out of the millions of frozen embryos in storage.

Originally Posted by thanatos144

You don't comprehend what you read to well do you? I with a my whole soul believe abortion is murder. I also believe that killing millions of embryos are mass murder.

If you truly believe that, doesn't that mean that you are every bit as guilty — and contemptible — as those who stood by and let the Holocaust happen?

(I'm not saying that you are, by the way, but that is the logical conclusion of your moral stance.)

Originally Posted by fishjoel

BTW...I still think Bill Ayers or one of his Weather Underground buddies did this bombing. They've been know to do bombings on US soil in the past.

Have you told the authorities about your perfectly plausible theory?

Originally Posted by ArmyCowboy

I didn't concede shit.

Stop making ridiculous assumptions.

You conceded the point when you shifted the argument away from having to provide scientific proof of your statement. Since I know you can't, and you know you can't, you didn't comply and kicked the can down the road. That's a classic example of a concession.

As far as incubating it, why? Its a human being according to you; let it live or die on its own . I really don't care which happens.

Well, I hope you never get into a car accident, get shot, have a heart attack, or any number of other things that might cause you to have to rely on external means of life sustainment because, in your book, someone could walk in and pull the plug on you because you're not really a human.

Originally Posted by AdamKadmon

Have you told the authorities about your perfectly plausible theory?

Well, it's about as plausible as any other assumptions people are throwing out there w/o knowing anything.

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Well, it's about as plausible as any other assumptions people are throwing out there w/o knowing anything.

No. It's not.

Although they did catch what they believe to be the bomber. They have not released his identity yet, except to say it's "W. Ayers." But that could mean anything.

Originally Posted by goober

So you shouldn't force a woman to carry a fetus? She should be able to decide on how her womb is used?
So the woman has rights, but those rights evaporate when she consents to sex, is that it?

Your premise is s strawman. The two scenarios are not the same. One scenario directly involves certain people. The other scenario is trying to force other people, unrelated to the action, to take responsibility for someone else's actions. Are children that have been given up by their parents not human? Can the government take these orphans and force other people to take care of them? Of course the answer is "no" but it puts the lie to your false comparison.

And they do have programs to "rescue snowflake babies", and so far they have resulted in 134 births worldwide, out of the millions of frozen embryos in storage.

Sounds like a good start and a worthy program.

Originally Posted by AdamKadmon

No. It's not.

Although they did catch what they believe to be the bomber. They have not released his identity yet, except to say it's "W. Ayers." But that could mean anything.

Lol!

Originally Posted by thanatos144

You don't comprehend what you read to well do you? I with a my whole soul believe abortion is murder. I also believe that killing millions of embryos are mass murder. Just cause I dont except your idea of how to fix it means very little to me. I can recognize evil. I am sorry you don't seem to be able to.

What about embryos that are created in a lab, but never implanted? Is IVF immoral murder as well?

Originally Posted by ArmyCowboy

It cannot exist outside the womb.

Therefore it is not a human being.

Quite trying to use emotionally charged rhetoric and stick to the facts.

I'm not using emotion, I'm using facts. Biologically, Genetically provable to be members of the same species, provable to be separate and unique individuals of the species.

I'm not sure what you're using, but certainly isn't facts.

Originally Posted by ArmyCowboy

You're trying to argue that an egg is a chicken.

If the egg is allowed to hatch, they'll be a chicken, therefore an egg is a chicken.

See how utterly ridiculous that sounds?

Only in the mind of a ridiculous non-thinker. A chicken egg is not a chicken any more than a human egg is a human. However, when fertilized the chicken egg is chicken life and the human egg is human life.