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Old 06-13-2006
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Not particularly a Rove fan, but a due process of law fan.

Are you no longer a Fitzgerald fan? It he incompetent?

If Rove is such a villain, shouldn't Fitzgerald have been able to charge him?

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I already answered this in the post above the one quoted here.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

OJ was guilty too, but he got off scott free didn't he? Doesn't make him any less a bad guy.

I am surprised there are so many here celebrating Rove's squeak by the law.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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OJ was guilty too, but he got off scott free didn't he? Doesn't make him any less a bad guy.

I am surprised there are so many here celebrating Rove's squeak by the law.
last time I checked, OJ was found NOT GUILTY. Your spin that he was guilty is just a slimy attempt to uphold your bush hate agenda.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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OJ was guilty too, but he got off scott free didn't he? Doesn't make him any less a bad guy.

I am surprised there are so many here celebrating Rove's squeak by the law.
Once again, how do you know this was a "squeak by the law"?!?

Plainly, Fitzgerald does not believe that there is proof he violated the law.

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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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last time I checked, OJ was found NOT GUILTY. Your spin that he was guilty is just a slimy attempt to uphold your bush hate agenda.
Right OJ was found not guilty. I believe he was guilty of murder.

Rove is not being indicted. I believe he is guilty of treason.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Once again, how do you know this was a "squeak by the law"?!?

Plainly, Fitzgerald does not believe that there is proof he violated the law.

Matt
Plainly, as we know, it is very hard to prove treason.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Right OJ was found not guilty. I believe he was guilty of murder.

Rove is not being indicted. I believe he is guilty of treason.
Apparently Fitzgerald disagrees.

You remember him, from the "Thank God for Fitzgerald threads"?

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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

From what I heard on the radio this morning, it sounded more like Fitzgerald decided he couldn't get a conviction, not that he thought Rove was innocent of wrongdoing.

Am I mistaken?
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

No Pramjockey, you're not mistaken. Traitor Rove slipped away because it's so hard to prove treason.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Apparently Fitzgerald disagrees.

You remember him, from the "Thank God for Fitzgerald threads"?

Matt
What exactly was Rove not indicted for again? Was it for being a moral vaccuum and a purveyor and peddler in promotion of a variety of honest opinions, suited to the political strategy and campaign goals of your choice (Discretion guaranteed)? I mean, that's some charge to be nicked for.
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From what I heard on the radio this morning, it sounded more like Fitzgerald decided he couldn't get a conviction, not that he thought Rove was innocent of wrongdoing.

Am I mistaken?
No. The defense they've presented - "I really didn't mean to lie when I obviously told an untruth, while having excellent motive to do so, so I can't be punished for perjury" - together with the Cooper- testimony - suggests that they can't prove that Rove lied to cover up a crime. I guess.. trying to convict a political adviser for shuffling rumours doesn't seem to be a very good case.

But, will there be questions about the role of the Vice- president's office now? If it's common practice to single out specific people and leak classified information, that in this case later turned out to be incorrect, to "discredit" political enemies? Will we have a series of hotspots on the increasingly large series of fantastic discoveries on how the Vice president runs his office? Will we have a revisit of Lawrence Wilkerson's comments? ..*sigh*.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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From what I heard on the radio this morning, it sounded more like Fitzgerald decided he couldn't get a conviction, not that he thought Rove was innocent of wrongdoing.

Am I mistaken?
Clearly, there is no convincing evidence of a crime, otherwise Fitzgerald wouldn't decide he could not get a conviction.

Look, as I said before, I am not a fan of the guy. But here we have seen due process carried forth, and charges not filed for what can only be lack of clear and convincing evidence.

Some here have maintained Rove is this uber-boogey man, the source or scourges of all manner.

How is it possible that he does all these things, from orchestrating a coup twice, to masterminding the war all the way to causing tooth decay - and there is no evidence to support even bringing a charge?

The pieces just don't fit. The was the partisan fanatics are clinging to this Rove theory is getting kind of embarrassing to watch.

Matt
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Right OJ was found not guilty. I believe he was guilty of murder.

Rove is not being indicted. I believe he is guilty of treason.
Do you believe Kerry is guilty of treason?
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

How can anyone be mad about this? An independant grand jury found that there was not enough evidence to try this man? Funny that people who claim to love justice see this as an injustice? If he was tried it would be an innocent man going to trial. How can anyone that loves justice, think Rove is guilty without hearing all the facts? This is beyond me. Then again, these are the same people that have already convicted the marines in the Haditha incident. Without hearing one piece of evidence.

Now for this Shumer character to ask for a detailed report is hilarious. It is against the law to do that.
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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From what I heard on the radio this morning, it sounded more like Fitzgerald decided he couldn't get a conviction, not that he thought Rove was innocent of wrongdoing.

Am I mistaken?
Where did you hear this? I didn't hear this on the radio today, here in new mexico
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Re: Rove will not be charged - mass suicides feared at YearlyKOS

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Do you believe Kerry is guilty of treason?
Kerry didn't tell the media the identity of a NOC CIA agent who tracked WMD around the world and especially Iran, and shut down Brewster Jennings and all the agents that tracked WMD from there.
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