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Old 08-15-2006
Joao Dasilva Joao Dasilva is offline
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

And as for Russ being 'easy to beat'.

Just talk to Mitch McConnell, Mark Newmann, and the suckers who put up $30 million (vs Russ's $200K) back in 1998.

Or one Tim Michaels who went back to supervising illegals pouring concrete for his family biz after Nov, 2003.
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Old 08-15-2006
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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And as for Russ being 'easy to beat'.

Just talk to Mitch McConnell, Mark Newmann, and the suckers who put up $30 million (vs Russ's $200K) back in 1998.

Or one Tim Michaels who went back to supervising illegals pouring concrete for his family biz after Nov, 2003.
I love debating liberal loons. I just keep posting facts and they keep ignoring them so they can talk about how great their boy is.

I'm still waiting for any of them on this thread to address mccain-feingold. it won't happen just read my sig to understand all you need to know about liberals.

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Old 08-15-2006
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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In light of the terror plots that have been broken up, it's not a good idea to talk about "illegal" wire tapping. It makes the democrat party look very weak on the defense of this nation. And it will be played out again & again by the Republican party.
Of course it's a good idea. The fact that some people are too stupid to realize that efficiency is not a consittutional argument doesn't mean the issue can be ignored. Republicans will call democrats "weak" on defense and terrorism no matter what democrats do. It worked for them in 2002 and 2004 (against a candidate with the silver star!) and it wasn't true then either. So they will use it until it doesn't work any more.

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Russ Fiengold has no chance to win the democrat nomination. He's too far left on many issues.
Maybe. But being "republican lite" hasn't worked for them either.

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There is absolutely no scenario that would benefit the United States by leaving Iraq at this time, or giving a deadline for departure. It would only strenghten the resolve of the terrorists & insurgents to stay in the fight, & would mean a major victory to them. This only means more terrorist attacks across the globe.

The only way is to win in Iraq. By staying on course to build up & train the Iraqi military & security forces, so they can defend their own country.
There is no scenario that benefits the US by making an open ended commitment in Iraq either. It only makes it look like we're too stupid or arrogant to admit this was a bad idea to begin with. Sticking around to serve as targets for every insurgent in Iraq while continuing to make ourselves a laughingstock for our delusional claims of being welcomed as liberators serves no function that I can see.
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Old 08-15-2006
Joao Dasilva Joao Dasilva is offline
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

Varuss,

Please post a 'fact' so we may discuss it.
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Old 08-15-2006
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It worked for them in 2002 and 2004 (against a candidate with the silver star!) and it wasn't true then either. So they will use it until it doesn't work any more.
It's an easy sell; no one seriously believes the Dems can successfully defend this country. H*ll Clintons main concern was cyber crimes; his defense secretary actually came out and said it was more of a concern for national security than islamic terrorists. Of course Dems don't want you to remember this either.

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There is no scenario that benefits the US by making an open ended commitment in Iraq either. It only makes it look like we're too stupid or arrogant to admit this was a bad idea to begin with.
Like I said no one seriously trusts the Dems to protect us from the likes of Islamic terrorists. They simply can't grasp that were we to leave the Islamic terrorists would then be emboldened and those loyal to the US in the ME would have no choice but to join with the terrorists, or be killed.

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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

But, does not the alleged latest terrorist plot, if true, (I have doubts) disprove the 'Roach Motel' theory?
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Varuss,

Please post a 'fact' so we may discuss it.
Take a look at the 25th post on this thread and then tell me Feingold is a champion of freedom and the 1rst amendment.

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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

25th post is mine, and speaks to the fact that 8% of Russ's voters in 2004 were Republicans.

Please clarify.
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Old 08-15-2006
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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(remember in the Senate each state gets 2 seats, Matt.)
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Oooh, that is completely new information, Joao. May I bask in the glow of your obviously superior knowledge?



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That's it, this proves it. I KNOW you two love eachother. You are like brothers constantly wrestling. LOL!!!! You two crack me up.
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Old 08-15-2006
Joao Dasilva Joao Dasilva is offline
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

Yep,

At age 6 we were seperated at the airport by a tall Arabic man named Osama.

Another damned Al Queda plot to prevent the return of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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25th post is mine, and speaks to the fact that 8% of Russ's voters in 2004 were Republicans.

Please clarify.
You're right try post 29
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Old 08-15-2006
Joao Dasilva Joao Dasilva is offline
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

Well,

I guess if you consider democracy as a product that can be bought like so-much fish, and that the more money an organization/person has the more influence over what our government does, and the louder their voice SHOULD be heard by said government, then you would say that McCain Feingold is against the overwhelming voice of the wealthy minority. However, consider two facts:

1. That is a minority view, which is called plutocracy.

2. We tried that before, from 1880-1929. Guess where it got us?
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It's an easy sell; no one seriously believes the Dems can successfully defend this country. H*ll Clintons main concern was cyber crimes; his defense secretary actually came out and said it was more of a concern for national security than islamic terrorists. Of course Dems don't want you to remember this either.



Like I said no one seriously trusts the Dems to protect us from the likes of Islamic terrorists. They simply can't grasp that were we to leave the Islamic terrorists would then be emboldened and those loyal to the US in the ME would have no choice but to join with the terrorists, or be killed.

Varus
Thank you for illustrating my point so completely.
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: You congratulate the British. I assume you're also congratulating the United States?

SENATOR RUSS FEINGOLD : Of course, I don't want to talk about exactly who was involved or reveal anything that's confidential, I - to the extent the United States was involved, of course, I'm - I'm delighted with that success and the Pakistanis and the others, but I'm not in a position to discuss the specifics. The British lead role in this of course is public.
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MSNBC - Asked where the NSA controversy was headed, Feingold said, “It’s up to Congress, whether Congress has the courage to stand up to an extreme assertion of executive power.”

Feingold said cutting off funding is one option that he is looking at. “There’s a time and a place to do that which is coming up soon,” he said.

He added, “We have to address the fact that the president has broken the law.”
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What a forked tongue scumbag! The Brits were successful in part due to the NSA's program that Feingold wants stopped.
Well, if that is what it takes to force this Pres to follow the law. I must note that Specter was the first to mention this option.
And I don't believe that this particular surveilance involved targets within the US. Furthermore, if my memory serves, I recall O'Reilly during his talk with Chertoff saying that warrants were obtained from FISC in this instance. Chertoff did not deny nor confirm. For what its' worth.******
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Don't forget Fiengold has morality issues as well. Two divorces, and questions emerging about his sexuality (according to Ann Coulter) as well. He will be an easy candidate to defeat if he runs.
Just because someone wouldn't fuck Coulter does not make that individual a homosexual. I would have a hell of a time keepin' a stiffy. To do that deed would require a large amount of concentration.
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I love debating liberal loons. I just keep posting facts and they keep ignoring them so they can talk about how great their boy is.

I'm still waiting for any of them on this thread to address mccain-feingold. it won't happen just read my sig to understand all you need to know about liberals.
Even though you, yourself, have yet to post any of these so-called "facts"?
Some Cato Institute " opinion " of the McCain-Feingold bill, holds as much sway as, well, your opinion of same. This substitution of fantasy for fact speaks volumes. No need to read your sig.
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Re: Russ Feingold on illegal wiretapping and Leiberman and TWAT

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Thank you for illustrating my point so completely.
My pleasure; the Dems have zero credibility when it comes to matters of national defense. Clinton gutted the military; in fact it was the only part of the govn that decreased under his tenure.

This is precisely why republicans think they can do whatever they like, spending wise. They know that the people are not going to give the power back to the Dems as long as they have this defeatist, pessimistic, america is the devil attitude.

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