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Rightisright · #31 (**permalink**) 09-24-2006

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Originally Posted by goober

What needs to be done in Iraq is simple and obvious, and it's exactly what worked before.

Arm the Sunnis and put them in charge, give them tanks and helicopters and jets and cluster bombs to deal with the kurds and shiites.
Call the new "Supreme Leader" a great friend of democracy, let him promise elections "once things settle down". And don't be too critical of the large numbers of Kurds and Shiites that will need composting, to "get the situation under control". And we get the hell out, so our presence doesn't play into the hands of the islamic movement. And we can "regret" the brutality that the new regime uses to establish security, without getting too much blood on our hands.

The Sunni's are the natural ally of a great power that wants to dominate Iraq, because they don't have oil in their area, so they need the Kurdish area to remain Iraq, and they hate Iran, so they keep the Shiites down, which is sort of exactly what we need, someone that will sell us oil, in exchange for the one thing we still make, high tech weaponry.
Someone who will crush the Kurds and the Shiites, who isn't us.
But someone who needs us, and someone that will keep Iran worried about their neighborhood, so they won't have as much time to spend on the "Israeli Problem".

I don't think that will work either. Whoever takes power in Iraq has to be anti-american or the people will kill him. We screwed this one up too bad this time. I think the bomb is the only way out.

Slon · #32 (**permalink**) 09-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

Sometimes doing God's work is hard. Buck up buddy and realize - these people would kill you in a minute and your mother too.

Fry them first!

So, EVERYONE in Iraq would kill me and my mother (by this, I'm assuming you mean white Christians like me) if given the chance? That includes all of the Christians (about 3%) in Iraq, right? In that case, why didn't Hussein mount a huge land invasion of the US? Surely he would want to kill us all. Why didn't he use those degraded and worthless WMDs that were so "dangerous" that we went in to dig them up?

In any case, can you point me to a place that documents Jesus's advocation of the violent extermination of thousands of people based on their geographical location?

Bullshit · #33 (**permalink**) 09-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

The mistake Bush has made with Iraq is that he doesn't want to win bad enough! I think he should have turned that rotten place into a sheet of green glass on 9/12. I know, all you liberals will say "you can't use the bomb." Why the hell not? We got it don't we? If he had, 2600 Americans would still be alive. Pretty soon, we'll have lost as many in Iraq as in 9/11. If he was going to listen to the liberals and not use the bomb, he should have used 5 times the troops he did and forced the submission of those animals. But he listened to the liberals, and did half a war. You can't do have a war.

okay, why did so many of you take the bait and respond? rightisright's need for attention is bogging this thread down. go play your playstation.

ViolaLee · #34 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

I'm igging him. I think my new policy is to ignore the wacked out nut jobs that talk about nuking people. They are wanna be serial killers, Hitlers, blood thirsty psychos and not even worth replying to. It's just way to sick to even joke about.

"There is no flag big enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people."

emptypepsi · #35 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by kengle

More names. Don't worry about me friend. I get good spiritual advice every week, from a professional too.

Taking spiritual advice from a liberal is like going to a mechanic who has never owned his own car.

And I guess we should take advice from one like yourself, who believes illegal immigrants should be hung or shot on site? Yeah, you've clearly accepted Jesus' word.

daisym · #36 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

My friend, I was redeemed by The Redeemer, and I have no fear of liberals or death. The same is there for you if you accept his love in your heart. Jesus loves you, even while you defile him.

After seeing several of your posts Mr Right, I don't believe you have any concept of the word love.

Hate appears to be your forte.

Hank · #37 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by CHUQ

How long will they mislead us? Forever, because the American people will not educate themselves. As long as they agree to the contract of state where they give up control of their lives to the elite, who's only concern is the holy trinity of money, influence and power. The representative democracy is in their favorite for they decide what you will vote on--you have little say!

Damn public school system.

hairballxavier · #38 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Curly

There are many on USPO (including me) who have said that Bush's war on Iraq has done nothing to further the advance against terrorism; that in fact it has created more terrorists. Apparently a National Intelligence Estimate agrees with this assessment.

How did you come to that conclusion?

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Originally Posted by NY Times

More than a dozen United States government officials and outside experts were interviewed for this article, and all spoke only on condition of anonymity because they were discussing a classified intelligence document.

The article is based solely on a fallacy of weak induction. An appeal to anonymous authority, to be specific. (Argumentum ad Verecundiam)

Therefore it has 0 credibility to those who apply skepticism and critical thinking when they read a news report.

Yet the leftist extremeists here jump on it as if it's god given truth. This is just typical NY Times anti-US propaganda.

biggyg2 · #39 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

I don't claim to represent anyone's religion.

I know one thing true -

Jesus is being attacked by these Muslins and the deniers of Christ in our own country.

If you love Jesus, wake up and smell the coffee brother!

Maybe get the son of god to help a brotha out !
Especially since this is god's country.

biggyg2 · #40 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Hank

Damn public school system.

Your too dependent on a system to tell you what to do. There is such a thing is self education and not being so dependent on the government.
Home school can make kids just as retarded, if not more since it's dependent on parents to educate them...frightening.

Slartibartfas · #41 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Sicofit

Well, I would have to say that you are being misled, but not by my government. I must ask where you get your propaganda, er uh, information. If those of you who believe the war in Iraq is creating more terrorists had been around in the 40's, you would have advocated not bombing Germany and not ridding the world of nazis and we'd all be speaking German now. This assault by Islamofascists didn't begin in the last decade. It really achieved full tilt in 1979 and has steadily escalated until we find ourselves where we are now, and until 9/11 Americans slept. Handling things your way, we'd still be asleep and probably soon dead. When does your alarm sound?

Stop that nonsense. You were in a state of war with another nation. Or better said, that other nation was in war with nearly the whole rest of the world. Bombing the munition factory of a nation that attacks everything with your flag on it, is something not that illogical.

I lack to see what this has to do at all in the struggle against international terrorism.

Slartibartfas · #42 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by jotathought

So for those of you that made the assessment, are you suggesting that radicalism didn't start expanding until 2003?

Yes I would say that islamic fundamentalism not much of a problem before 2003 in Iraq. It was quite the opposite of what it is now.

After all failed states are the ideal ground for terrorists, and the US seemed to have the weird immediate need for creating yet another failed state in the midth of the muslim world.

Slartibartfas · #43 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

Sometimes doing God's work is hard. Buck up buddy and realize - these people would kill you in a minute and your mother too.

Fry them first!

Perhaps you could help me out with my lacking bible knowledge. What was it again about "the other cheek" Jesus talked about?

Btw I know people who have relatives in Iraq. At least those that could not leave that country before the invasion. I can not share you view that these relatives are keen on harming people in Europe or the US. They are far more keen on getting the existance back you bombed them away. After all, pre 2003 Iraq was not only a dictatorship, but a country where people could live without the constant and widespread fear to get shot or blown up in the middle of the day on the open street. The sad thing is that live was better in Iraq before you invaded it, allthough it was an inhuman dicatorship under a mad man before.

But the most funny thing you probably have not even considered is, that with a nuclear attack on Iraq, you would have hit more innocent western civilians in Iraq than the 2600 you were talking about before. It would have been irony, if you would have killed more innocent Europeans and American civilians in Iraq than those terrorists have killed in the WTC before.

daisym · #44 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Slartibartfas

Perhaps you could help me out with my lacking bible knowledge. What was it again about "the other cheek" Jesus talked about?

Slarti - I've finally worked something out, thanks to all these extremist christians that post on here.

when Jesus said, 'turn the other cheek' he didn't mean what us lilly livered liberals THINK he meant. He meant show them the cheeks of your bum/bottom/backside, which is in many cultures a symbol of contempt.

So Jesus wasn't talking about being humble at all, he was suggesting the christian thing to do is to treat others with contempt ... which can of course include wiping them off the face of the earth.

Once I understood that Slarti, I realised these extremists were the REAL christians ...

My apologies to all those Christians who for two thousand years have misunderstood the message of Jesus ... I'd suggest you sign up to your local extremist church if you are serious about being saved.

doniston · #45 (**permalink**) 09-25-2006

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Originally Posted by Rightisright

I don't think that will work either. Whoever takes power in Iraq has to be anti-american or the people will kill him. We screwed this one up too bad this time. I think the bomb is the only way out.

OF COURSE YOU DO, After all, that's the Christian way, RIGHT???rolleyes:

"rightisright is Right", RIGHT???:

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