[quote=hairballxavier;807179]How did you come to that conclusion? [UNQUOTE]

Perhaps because he doesn't fit the Catogory of "Hear no, see no" Macacas that I see here on this board.

hairballxavier;807179]How did you come to that conclusion?



RESPONSE perhaps because he pays attention to what is going on, and doesn't fit the catogory of some of the other "hear no, see no" Macacas that frequent this board.

Too late already have lost as many. Since the US is the only country to actually use the bomb on a civilian population--why not? And which animals are we talking about? Which "liberals" did he listen to?

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Well said!!!!

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Sure would be nice if the Whitehouse would stop blocking the April NIS Report to made public instead of selective media leakage.

Selective leakage retains the ability of 'plausible deniability' for the pro-war set (which is obviously the purpose of the leakage).

According to the April NIS report (the most damaging parts that were selectively leaked), the Iraqi war is making terrorism worse.

From the Church Of Satan, 5th of the 9 satanic statements. You're going even further than the satanists, as you want to take your vengeance before any harm is done to you. In this context, your suggestion to "fry them" is rather ironical.

Just warning you about your inconsistencies.

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That's exactly what I was thinking.

Besides that it hardly registered with most folks that April was a long time ago...before the 9/11 anniversary. If the report is true and topically accurate, Bush was touting his war on terrorism in televised, heartfelt speeches, knowing full well that the 16 collective intelligence agencies of the US all said we were creating more terrorism.

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Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

And if people want to know exactly what was in April's NIE report, they should call or email their Senators and Representatives (you know, the people who are supposed to be working for you?) and tell them that the entire report should be released to the public. And it should be released now, before the election, given the push on both left and right to make this election about Iraq, the war on terrorism, and national security.

If some or all of the report puts Bush and the attack on Iraq in a favorable light, that's fine; if the report says that the attack on Iraq has caused a growth in the number of terrorists and terrorist attacks, that's fine, too. The more we know before going to the voting polls the better, right?

Reading about the report always brings along with it the interpretation and bias of the person writing the article. Reading the source document is much better.

Good advice.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

This story is all over the news today. Shit's going bad for Bushco.. very bad and its about time people started to wake up about it.

Never understimate the ability of Bushco to spin spin spin, and for the media to move on and forget.

Andrew

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The point I find interesting (but only mildly) is that they, the left, cannot forgive George Bush, Tony Blair, etc. for relying on the intelligence analysts in invading Iraq as though everyone should have known better given that the intelligence analysts are incompetent. Now, armed with the report from intelligence analysts, the left now claims our leaders didn't listen to them closely enough. Didn't believe them before, and now they are the champions of reason. Curious, but utterly transparent. It isn't about the issues but about the man, George W. Bush and thus you have the essence of my user name.

in this country we heard about intelligence people arguing against the war before it happened - including people in the US.

I don't know about your media - maybe their role as propogandists was more important than their role in keeping the public informed. And now that the war is proving to be the balls up it was predicted to be, the media are jumping on the public's bandwaggon, in order to retain their popularity as a source of information.

you know, politicians on all sides, and the media both play to the public. In the first instance its to buy votes, in the second instance its to buy dollar votes.

If it didn't have dire repercussions, I would almost find it amusing that SO many people love Pres. Bush and hate Clinton or they love Clinton and hate Bush. I, personally, much prefer President Bush for many reasons, but I realize that the two, in fact, all of the power people in the western world have much more in common with each other than they do with any of us. Bush, Bush Sr., and Clinton all serve on the same board of SPP. Behind closed doors, it's a "them and us" situation and to them, we are merely the masses of whom they are in charge. We, the peasants, wage war with each other on the issues while they are enjoying a pipe and a brandy. We're the only ones who get worked up over any of this. Different worlds, don't cha know......

I don't give a rat's arse about either. Its their policies that I don't like. I am well aware that the only thing stopping Clinton from invading Iraq in 1998 was 'world opinion.' 9/11 provided a degree of sympathy for the US that it had probably never experienced before (except from France in the 18th Century) and the US government of the day was bound to try and capitalize on that.

That it was so blind as to think the invasion was agood idea was, as I said before, due to selective gathering of the information, and filling in the blanks with their own imagination.

Its like they were practising creative visualisation in making a new middle east. the fact is, believing what you want to believe doesn't really make things happen.

and yes - I fully understand that the us and them is not about you vs me, or even Abdul vs me. Its that you and I and Abdul are all just ants ... until election time... or until we can be used to push an agenda in some way.