So, you are saying what? Because someone may get picked up who doesn't belong in an orange jump suit, we should let everyone go? I haven't said any such thing.Name calling is a very Leftist, Socialist and anti-American debate technique. I have never adapted this kind of pathetic communication.

Whatever. The Detainees who are found to have been in contact with Terrorists should be held. The best way to avoid this is not to get involved with Terrorist freaks who stand for nothing and have no value.

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Except for about four posts ago when you said: "Why did they get picked up for Terrorism if innocent?" in other words you've made the assumption that because they've been picked up then they must have done something, which is precisely what I said you were doing


Apart from when you accused Luap of being a threat to the safety of your family , what were your exact words " be insulted by the truth " wasn't it ?. Then there are comments about people being un-american etc etc. Are you saying nobody who is on the Right, Capitalist and American ever indulges in insults ?

Now then, back to all this evidence that you have concerning terrorism, since you've shared it with the police it's in the public domain, so share it with us, let us know what you've got. Since you've turned people in as terrorists then post their names here so we can see what the trial results were, tell what they were charged with. Since you've had the courage to spy on them, and inform on them have the guts to name names.

Lastly please please share with us why your local sherrifs department is " stupefied " and why you doubt their ability. I find this really intriguing. Maybe we could get one of them to come here and give the departments view of what happened, that'd be interesting don't you think ?

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True, an answer to such a question should be much more detailed than “yes” or “no”.

That is not the same question at all. There is a rough spectrum between liberty and security: on the extreme end of liberty, you are free to do anything you want, including steal, rape, and murder without lawful consequence; on the extreme end of security, you are not free to do anything without consent of authority.

I don’t know about my setting a trap, either. You had said yourself, “Safety first,” which I took to mean, “safety takes precedence over liberty.” I merely asked the question so I could better understand your position concerning “safety first.”

I asked a question; if you think the premises are faulty, explain why (besides your nonsensical school-lunch analogy). Don’t say, “This is a trap, I refuse to answer,” since that does nothing to support your position. I was asking the question to better understand that position. I’m curious, though: what sort of “trap” was laying for you? If you said yes, that you would forfeit freedoms for security, what did you expect me to do?

Please, do not quote me out of context. You are being critical of others’ methods of debating, and I’m tired of your manipulations. Instead, deal with the point I was trying to make instead of switching around two or three of my words to blatantly mischaracterize my statements. When you say “Terrorist,” what sort of individuals do you immediately suspect? Muslims, Middle Easterners, socialists and their sympathizers? Should they all be rounded up?

Do you have more sources than the one found in meta-religion?

No problem.

Yup, and just because Major Smith wrote an article for a website, doesn’t mean everything he says is absolute fact.

A fundamental part of debating is to establish definitions of key words in that debate. For that reason, I was asking to know your “personal definition of Terrorism.” What is it?

How do you know the FBI isn’t investigating and arresting as we speak?

Yeah… I’m aware of that. But you said that my flag could be seen as evidence that I am a totalitarian-socialist-terrorist. The flag is that of a national indigenous movement in southern Mexico. Does my having that flag as an online avatar really count as evidence to ties to terrorism, in your opinion?

What? You said that the flag could be seen as evidence of terrorist ties. I asked a question (NOTE: I asked a question, I did not pose as a source or provide one) of where the group that carries this flag is identified as terrorist… you’ve failed to prove to me these ties. Therefore, your statement that this red and black flag is evidence of terrorist-ties is shallow and unfounded.

I agree that Soviet Communism was a failed system of government, and I would also say that is a false representation of the true values of Leftists.

The historical bloc of statist leftists define themselves in the struggle. They are the nationalist part essentially opposed to all organization of popular power, substituting it with false representations because they insist on preserving state power at all cost. Here we can see their filthy alliances opposed to all criticism of their principles and that, in fact, they are not leftists.

[ http://www.narconews.com/Issue42/article2036.html].

There are more sorts of “leftists” than the self-identified leftists that oppress populations and maintain dictatorial powers, AND their sympathizers.

Social equality and justice are not just “leftist” terms. They are certainly “buzz words” though, but that does not mean they are not noble ideals. Leftists and Rightists just have different ideas of equality and justice. Check out Wikipedia for some definition of these supposedly undefined words.

I see. Did you know that Muslims believe in God? And that some so-called Leftists do as well?

Yep. Terrorism is certainly more serious, and that is why the top investigative agency in the country is dealing with the threat.

Could you describe to me your “military solution”? I understand you want a coast-to-coast round up, but SPECIFY who should be included in this round up and what should precede and follow the event?

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Each man's death diminishes me,
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For whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
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Without safety, there can be no liberty. The two go hand-in-hand.Surrending some liberties temporarily could interrupt the Terrorists who are already here. I am unsure which liberties we would interrupt but as long as it makes it easier to round up the Terrorists, I am all for it. The trap where you could make me appear as if I oppose liberty, which I don't. I only oppose the Terrorists having liberty. They shouldn't.It must be awful for you.You want me to commit to identifying the enemies of the United States by one word like 'Socialists' for example. I am not going to help you in this regard.I am old enough to remember the many airlines that were hijacked and flown to Cuba. There doesn't need to be more for my understanding and yes, there are other links. It is well known that the Soviet Socialists and Cuban Communists trained the first Palestinian and Lybian Terrorists.





Castro was always an ally of Iran and a fan of their 'Revolution".

Terrorists have a political objective.

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