I am as well losing respect for this country. It's beyond shameful.

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George bush reminds me of a mad scientist with the IQ of an pimple, Impeach that SOB.

The sad truth is this will not even appear on the radar screen in Novemeber. The issues will be Iraq, the economy, and terrorism. How we treat those we have captured in the war on terrorism will only be important to a few. That is the sad state of affairs we find ourselves in.

However on the brightside, I believe despite the administrations best efforts to make terrorism the number one issue that place will in fact be held by Iraq. If that is the case then the admin and its supporters loose. In in 08 it remains Iraq it will almost be a certainty that the more moderate element in the US will once again take oer Congress and the Presidency then this piece of crap bill can be repealed. Even if Dems and moderate repubs get the majority in 06 there won't be enough to override a Bush veto if a new bill tries to change this one. The other thing this bill does as I understand it is give Bush and his cohorts amnesty for pretty much anything they have done so far. The bill will be challenged in court, of that there is no doubt. However it is not likely to be found unconstitutional due to the congressional stamp of approval. The USSC traditionally is a lot more comfortable with this type of thing as long as it has the support of both branches.

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Kinda pissed me off.

I went out and found the Senate Vote counts for this Amendment.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...vote=00259#top

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Partisan issue, isn't it? Only one Republican voted nay.

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Patrick Leahy is one of my all time favorite Senators. If you remember, he is the one who Cheney told to go fuck yourself when Leahy asked Cheney questions about Halliburton's no bid contracts in Iraq. Patrick Leahy is a true American, constitution loving, patriotic Senator.

Thanks for the link, good to know. I hope all the yeas get voted out if they are up for vote. I wonder why Olympia Snowe didn't vote?

If everyone remembers, Patrick Leahy was one of the victims of the Senate Anthrax threat.

That happened after he sent a couple letters like this one:

http://www.justacitizen.com/articles...oft_7-9-04.pdf

And Lieberman voted yea. I sure hope Lamont takes that seat.

They never did catch that anthrax terrorist did they?

No, Karl still works in the White House

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Lieberman is too busy cowering in a corner to grow a spine and to stand up for American values. But what can we expect, the "moral" candidate who is too worried about violent video games to oppose torture, supports the removal of habaes corpus. Treason is a good word for it.

At least Dodd is a true american.

It seems that a large number of the senate forgot their oaths.

It does fit his MO.

I agree and while I can understand the political reasons for the republicans to side with the Administration (tho I strongly disagree) n There is absolutely NO excuse for democrats to have voted yes fo this horrendous miscarraige. I hope that the citizens rise up and throw out everyone possible in the Senate, and everyone in the house that supported either it. or the previous monstrosity regarding wire-taping..

Wow what a feast all of you must be having! every single post bashes this bill as best i can tell!

Well far be it from to stop the party here! I agree with you all, this bill does suck, it doesn't give the President nearly enough power to fight this war and it is indeed disgraceful!

Incredible, never in my life have i seen a thread like this!

Yes, the President deserves to have unmonitored power to torture people based solely on suspicion. That is the whole point of the three branch system as opposed to a monarchy.

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