Sorry man. I know you don't want to be catagorized with evil liberals like me, but you have to understand - You can't sorta disagree, you have to be in full compliance if you want to be in their club.

Will they be nicer to you if you're not as bad as me? Doubt it. We're full blown brothers in the Axis of Evil in their eyes and even seeing eye to eye with them on some issues simply isn't good enough for them.

If you're not a Republican Borg, then you are nothing. Resistance is futile.

It doesn't work like that exactly. Socialism induces a mental disorder where genocides and terrorism are enabled. For example, the National Socialists were Nazis and I don't need to explain what happened there.

Stalin killed millions. He was a Dictator of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Socialism is equivialant to anti-Americanism. Would you kill me? It's hard to determine what Socialism may eventually inspire you to do. However, Socialists promote, support, and are on the side of the Terrorists consistantly which is dangerous.

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United We Stand.

Would I kill you?

Uh. No.

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"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

You compared Nazi National Socialists with socialism. Do you know how ignorant you sound?

There are people in this forum that actually know that those two things have nothing to do with each other.

You've got the be the biggest newbie to politics I know.

Please post a reliable link to one working, good quality functioning WMD that was found to be in Hussein's possession. Hint: you won't find it from the CIA:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7634313/
So, do you have a link to a reliable source that shows solid proof that he actually did?Terrorists with whom we deal now are often Islamic fundamentalists. Many socialists actually strongly oppose religion. In any case, you can bring them to trial if you think they are terrorists. Supporting laws that allow you to bypass the courts just shows how uncertain you are about their status as terrorists.Reagan thought differently when he supported terrorists, apparently. In any case, non-legal legal residents just lost their habeas corpus rights thanks to people like you. Patriot Act is another infringement on our freedoms, and people like you support the man who made it happen. Here is a hint: bin Laden didn't take away any of our rights, Bush did, and you love Bush and hate bin Laden.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Hint: Hitler was a national socialist.
Hint: Hitler rounded up communists/socialists in concentration camps and death camps to have the exterminated.

If you think Hitler and Stalin were the same politically, why were they also at war with one another?

Still think Hitler is the same as any socialist?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

That was in my post. National Socialism is an acronym for Nazi.No. He rounded up Jews.Stalin was a murderer. Hitler was a murderer. Socialism is a brain disorder where genocides, wars and destruction occurs.Hitler and Stalin were allies first, then enemies.

Socialists may not get along with each other very well. Stalin sided with the U.S. because Hitler invaded. He need us and we need him although, he was a Socialist.

Political Islam = Socialism

Islam and Socialism are so compatable because both oppose Christians and Jews.

As far as detainees being held, we can only hope they stay behind bars, especially if they are Terrorists.

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United We Stand.

I think this about sums up your irrationality. You are a staunch cold warrior, and you could never give up the "good versus evil" and "white versus black" worldview. There is and will always be THE ENEMY (that is, someone that dissents or carries a very different opinion than your own) and he will always be of the same sort in your eyes: evil. The glorious and perfect United States of America is never wrong, because it can never be evil.

It does not matter that socialism and extremist Islam are two very, very different things. It does not matter that Hitler and Stalin and Mao were capable of genocide because of their authoritarian and dictatorial powers rather than their professed political ideology. It does not matter that the United States of America is becoming more and more statist just as Germany, Russia, and China did.

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No man is an island...
Each man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in Mankind.
And therefore, never send to know
For whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
—John Donne

Ah, this "Nazis were communists" bullshit again. How I missed that during all the peaceful months here on the board where you weren't here.

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"I think that gay marriage should be allowed."
- John McCain on an episode of Hardball, 2006, before the commercial break

"I do not believe that gay marriage should be legal."
- John McCain on the same episode of Hardball, after the commercial break

"John McCain does not speak for the John McCain campaign."
- Tucker Bounds, Spokesman of the John McCain presidential campaign.

The straight talk express. You gotta love it.

And frankly CF I see no diffrence between what you are claiming they are like and my experiences with people in the liberal club. Different sides of the same coin.

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Kinetic the great thing about the brain is its ability to absorb new information. We have been over this over and over and over again and given you and others, who seem not to have a problem making this mistake with regularity, the reason why there is no way on gods green earth National Socialism equates to the definition of socialist. **************

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The universe grows smaller every day and the threat of aggression by any group anywhere can no longer be tolerated. There must be security for all or no one is secure... - Klaatu

Not kill, wouldn't be much use to the lazy sobs in society if the actual producers were dead. They're certainly willing to confiscate the property of someone who's earned it and distribute it to those they feel need it more.

It's all about personal freedom and socialists don't believe in individuality so how can they understand true freedom?

Varus

I didn't use the word evil in my post.I never said they were identical. My point is that Islamofascists and Socialists are compatible. Political Islam is very similar to Socialism. Both are anti-Jewish, anti-American, anti-Capitalist.That's ridiculous. Of course it mattered.The United States isn't becoming anything like you claim, except in your mind.

During WWII, US soldiers weren't known to be terribly kind to Nazis. This idea that Terrorists should be treated with respect and understanding is hooey. Terrorists have no value and should be held because they cannot be rehabilitated.

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United We Stand.

See, this is where your argument falls apart. I do, in fact, believe in individuality. I think I can understand true freedom.

When you try to tell ME what I believe, it becomes absurd.

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"Jesus said: I have cast fire upon the world, and behold I guard it until it is ablaze."
Gospel of Thomas

True, but you did say several things that tended to communicate the idea of "evil." Such as this: Socialism is a brain disorder where genocides, wars and destruction occurs.

You said political Islam = socialism.

So what determines compatibility is simply what people do not like? If we look at things from that perspective, nearly everyone is compatible in some situations. Anyway, thats beside the point: I know that there are many so-called socialists out there that are not anti-Jewish or anti-American.

I agree. Your previous statements about socialist 'mental disorders' didn't seem to convey your feelings.

Are you sure? When President Bush signs the Military Commissions Act of 2006, he is taking a large step in the direction of authoritarianism. I've been reading through the bill and, while I am not legal analyst, it seems pretty clear that the military commissions are very capable of being manipulated. Also, the provisions for protection of classified information are very broad and could lead to a charged individual being unable to see any evidence against him (or s/he could see the evidence, but might not be told anything of the source of the evidence - i.e. it could be completely fabricated). Also, such basic provisions as a right to a speedy trial are not mandatory.

Terrorists do not carry around signs declaring their intentions. An individual must be fairly detained and investigated and given a chance to a reasonably fair trial. If this does not happen, in the name of security we are giving the President and the Secretary of Defense arbitrary power to detain non-citizens for no other reason than "national security" for indefinite amount of time. Is this not authoritarian? What if we are hit by a "homegrown" terrorist? Should this act apply to citizens as well?

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No man is an island...
Each man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in Mankind.
And therefore, never send to know
For whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.
—John Donne