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Old 10-02-2006
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Gunman shoots girls in Amish school

This has been happening today near where I live, and it's been chaotic and I've been avoiding travel through the area where it happened. Some sick twist gunned down several girls at an Amish school, specifically targeting the girls.

Just for a little background, the Amish keep their own grade schools up to 8th grade, and then the children leave school altogether to work on the farms with their community until they get what is called their rumspringa/rumschpringe period (Pennsylvania German term for 'running around,' where the Amish children get a pass from the Amish elders, their family and their community to experiment as they please with the 'English' world (outside world) before they decide whether or not to get baptised into the Amish Church).

The Amish are pacifists and it is a core belief that guns can never be created or used for the purpose of killing human beings (they can use appropriate hunting rifles if they are for other purposes such as livestock protection, hunting if the game is necessary and will be consumed, etc). They live their lifestyle as a way of isolating themselves from what they see are bad influences to Christian and good family and community bonds.

That this happened to them is a striking thing in their eyes. Spending their lives trying to avoid things like what just happened, it's sad that the world finally came to them this way.

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PARADISE, Pennsylvania (CNN) -- A 32-year-old truck driver walked into an Amish schoolhouse Monday, binding and shooting three girls execution-style before killing himself, police said Monday.

Seven others were wounded in the attack, which police said appeared to be a revenge killing for an incident that occurred two decades ago.

"It seems as though he wanted to attack young female victims, and this is close to his residence, that's the only reason we can figure that he went to the school," said Comm. Jeffrey Miller, Pennsylvania State Police.

"It's a horrendous crime scene," he said. (Watch police investigate shooting scene -- 1:00)

The shooting took place at Wolf Rock School in Paradise, a school run by the Amish community with about 27 students in grades 1 through 8.

One of the children died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said.

The gunman, Charles Carl Roberts IV, was a truck driver, said Miller. He was not Amish. He had three children, and left several notes for his family "along the lines of suicide notes," Miller said.

Police said he had barricaded himself in the schoolhouse with two-by-four and two-by-six pieces of lumber.

Fifteen male students between the ages of six and 13 were released from the school, Miller said.

At least five young girls with gunshot wounds were taken to area hospitals, a spokeswoman said.

Gunman let boys go
Miller said that during the attack, Roberts apparently told students to line up in front of the blackboard. He began to tie his female captives' feet together. Then he let the boys in the classroom leave.

Miller said Roberts also allowed an adult female who was pregnant to leave and three other adult females who had infant children with them.

At the time he let them leave, the teacher was able to get out of the schoolhouse and alert authorities, Miller said. Miller said Roberts called his wife while he was inside the school. She said that he couldn't go on any more and he was getting revenge for something that happened 20 years ago. (Watch aftermath of deadly school shooting -- 2:00)

Lancaster General Hospital initially received three young patients, ages 6 to 15 -- one in critical condition -- and expects to receive three more patients soon, spokeswoman Kim Hatch told CNN.

Two were transferred to Hershey Medical Center and another to Children's Hospital in Philadelphia, while the fourth remains at Lancaster General, she said.

Another young female suffering from a gunshot wound to the head and right hand was taken to Reading Hospital and Medical Center, where she was in critical condition before she was transferred to Children's Hospital, a hospital spokeswoman said.

Lancaster County's 911 Web site reported dozens of emergency vehicles -- including at least nine ambulances -- were dispatched to Bart Township shortly before 11 a.m. for a "medical emergency." The Lancaster County emergency communications Web site showed 20 incident calls listed to the normally quiet Bart Township at 10:48 a.m.

Shortly after the attack, men, women and girls in traditional Amish clothing gathered in small groups outside the country schoolhouse along a dirt road. Horse-drawn carriages could be seen in a nearby parking lot.

The attack was the nation's third deadly school shooting in a week.

On Wednesday, a 53-year-old man entered a high school in Bailey, Colorado, where he held several female students hostage at gunpoint. He shot one girl before killing himself seconds after a SWAT team stormed inside the classroom.

A high school student near Madison, Wisconsin, is suspected of fatally gunning down his principal on Friday, after he was disciplined for carrying tobacco and being bullied.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/02/ami...ing/index.html

The movie Witness, starring Harrison Ford, was filmed in this town and surrounding area.






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Re: Gunman shoots girls in Amish school

I'd give 50-50 odds that the autopsy finds a brain tumor.
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What a sick shit.

Terrible.
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That's pretty seriously messed up.

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Ugh, disgusting.
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Re: Gunman shoots girls in Amish school

School shootings are becoming all the rave!
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I'd give 50-50 odds that the autopsy finds a brain tumor.
Or a chemical imbalance.

How do we keep guns away from psychos?

RIP little Amish girls
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I'm not following you. What do you mean? Why would you post about a brain tumor?
Like Charles Whitman, the Texas sniper, a person with a fairly normal life gets a gun and starts shooting people. It's not a very common occurrence, so I think based on the limited facts in the post, that there is probably some brain pathology involved.
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I'd give 50-50 odds that the autopsy finds a brain tumor.
What makes you say that?


Edit: You can disregard goober. You already answered the question in another post.
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Re: Gunman shoots girls in Amish school

Three school shootings in one week. Not this shit again. The high school I graduated from had a school shooting the year after I left.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heath_High_School_shooting
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Three school shootings in one week.

I think the reason is media coverage. For example, a few weeks ago, I was watching the Red Sox-Yankees game and all of a sudden, the cameras were on the players for a few minutes. The announcer then said that some fan had created a ruckus on the field and to keep these types of incendents to a minimum, we do not show it on tv.
This makes me think of Iraq and our news media outlets.

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Re: Gunman shoots girls in Amish school

This is sick shit and is happening more these days.
The bastards just can't put a bullet into their own heads without involving others.
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I think the reason is media coverage. For example, a few weeks ago, I was watching the Red Sox-Yankees game and all of a sudden, the cameras were on the players for a few minutes. The announcer then said that some fan had created a ruckus on the field and to keep these types of incendents to a minimum, we do not show it on tv.
This makes me think of Iraq and our news media outlets.

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Great play there....Talk about school shootings and make a play for Iraq.
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Great play there....Talk about school shootings and make a play for Iraq.
It's all about violence and how the media deals with it.
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Like Charles Whitman, the Texas sniper, a person with a fairly normal life gets a gun and starts shooting people. It's not a very common occurrence, so I think based on the limited facts in the post, that there is probably some brain pathology involved.
So you're already mounting an insanity defence to try and give understanding and compassion to a man who just gunned down schoolgirls? That was quick...
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