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Old 11-06-2006
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Me and God have our own thing going, so maybe that portion of me is a Christian, and unlike You and Your crowd, I am not ashamed of the Lord!


what, the lord of the state? you might be worshipping at the wrong alter. but its okay, state worship seems to be the new religion for most right wingers. in my all powerful governments name we pray, amen.
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Old 11-06-2006
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Wouldn't make a difference the liberals use any example of mistreatment as an excuse to parrot their whacky belief that Iraq was better off under Saddam. And that in fact the ME was a safer place under his regime. They have their talking points which are void of anything to do with reality.

If the liberal media actually cared about the truth they would be reporting the good works americans and the troops are doing in Iraq and the ME. As it is that doesn't fit their Bush is the devil template.

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So, both the New York Times and BBC are lying? Iraq is actually better with the civil war?
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A federal judge ruled today that graphic pictures of detainee abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison must be released over government claims that they could damage America's image.

Someone should tell them that bad press can be prevented by not abusing prisoners in the first place. Censorship is only needed to preserve the good reputation of those who have tortured and/or murdered already.
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Old 11-06-2006
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Re: Saddam Sentenced to Death

I'm gonna bet 30 $ on Saddam committing suicide before the public hanging.

Poor dude! Getting hung up for killing thousands, using weapons made in the good ol USA.

(May the Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him)
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Old 11-06-2006
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I'm gonna bet 30 $ on Saddam committing suicide before the public hanging.

Poor dude! Getting hung up for killing thousands, using weapons made in the good ol USA.

(May the Peace and Blessings of Allah be Upon Him)

I have several Weapons made in the Good Ol USA, as You sarcasticaly call America! I have NO right, nor would the thought cross my mind to go out and KILL People!!

I find it amazing how many IGNORANT Posts find their way in Print and its usually from Ultra Left Stalinists!! I sincerely hope that Satan arrives 30 minutes ahead of our Lord, and escorts ol Sodomy to hell!!
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I have several Weapons made in the Good Ol USA, as You sarcasticaly call America! I have NO right, nor would the thought cross my mind to go out and KILL People!!

I find it amazing how many IGNORANT Posts find their way in Print and its usually from Ultra Left Stalinists!! I sincerely hope that Satan arrives 30 minutes ahead of our Lord, and escorts ol Sodomy to hell!!
Are you saying that Saddam shouldn't have used our weapons on the Kurds/Iranians which he had specificially asked for the purpose of killing the kurds/Iranians ?

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Old 11-07-2006
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Are you saying that Saddam shouldn't have used our weapons on the Kurds/Iranians which he had specificially asked for the purpose of killing the kurds/Iranians ?

thats a great source.

so basically what the US sponsored court tried him for was use of chemical weapons specifically approved and partially facilitated by the US. how much worse than that does it get? and this is a victory how?

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
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Old 11-07-2006
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Re: Saddam Sentenced to Death

The problem here was created by the post-WWII idiocy of trying to create a legal structure for punishing evil aggressors.

When someone like Saddam is defeated, there should be no trials, no public appearances, only a private execution in a quick and painless manner, and public evidence of their execution presented.

Alternatively, we could just release him in a nice suit on some random street corner in a Kurdish neighborhood.
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Old 11-07-2006
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The problem here was created by the post-WWII idiocy of trying to create a legal structure for punishing evil aggressors.

When someone like Saddam is defeated, there should be no trials, no public appearances, only a private execution in a quick and painless manner, and public evidence of their execution presented.

Alternatively, we could just release him in a nice suit on some random street corner in a Kurdish neighborhood.
Not a bad idea at all
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The Bush family is friends with the Saudi's, so by your logic, the association game, they are terrorists too. All this time I thought you didn't think that.
There is a minimal friendship. Are you claiming that the Saudi Royal family are Terrorists like Saddam Hussein? Should the US invade them?
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Saddam gets what he deserves, the violence now will be blamed on this, but it will just be a new excuse.
The Terrorists freaks always have an excuse. They don't even need one. They are Terrorists even if you ignore their filth.
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If the global community were more pro-active we could have a lot more of these leaders tried and sentenced.
What Global Community? There is no such thing. You mean France was going to give up Saddam and Kofi's "Terror for Food Programme" and join the War on Terror?

Nonsense. There is no 'Global Community' but what rests inside your head.
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Do you know who owns CNN? I'm quite sure the man who founded that big company that CNN is part of does not advocate socialism. Again, you should check up on the ideologies.
I trust CNN like al Jazeera. They both would get Americans killed and not even blink about it. Whoever owns it may not be producing the casts.
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If liberalism is socialism to you than maybe you are for an oligarchy? or autocracy? theocracy?
I will remain a Realist while Liberalism gets redefined by those who practice it.

I never said that Liberalism = Socialism. What I have alluded to is that Socialism and Liberalism seem to have intersected and may also be called Progressive. Can you tell the difference?

Anyway, Saddam Hussein is sentence to hang. It is not popular but probably ought to be done. He doesn't seem too happy about it.

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There is a minimal friendship. Are you claiming that the Saudi Royal family are Terrorists like Saddam Hussein? Should the US invade them?The Terrorists freaks always have an excuse. They don't even need one. They are Terrorists even if you ignore their filth.What Global Community? There is no such thing. You mean France was going to give up Saddam and Kofi's "Terror for Food Programme" and join the War on Terror?

Nonsense. There is no 'Global Community' but what rests inside your head.I trust CNN like al Jazeera. They both would get Americans killed and not even blink about it. Whoever owns it may not be producing the casts.I will remain a Realist while Liberalism gets redefined by those who practice it.

I never said that Liberalism = Socialism. What I have alluded to is that Socialism and Liberalism seem to have intersected and may also be called Progressive. Can you tell the difference?

Anyway, Saddam Hussein is sentence to hang. It is not popular but probably ought to be done. He doesn't seem too happy about it.

You've said "liberal socialist", that is not possble either.
The issue wasn't if CNN's reporting would cause secrets to be given, that is just a news company being a news company. You said it was a socialist, communist one, and well no, it isn't, just ask Mr. Turner. The Saudi's support terrorism, Bush said either with us or with the terrorists, hmmm... interesting. Liberalism is liberalism, socialism is socialism, make up your mind. Stop making "willy nilly" definitions of these things and just go read a simple overview of political ideologies. You are not a realist, your imagination is pretty vibrant though.
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You've said "liberal socialist", that is not possble either.
I have asked you to define them. You don't.
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The issue wasn't if CNN's reporting would cause secrets to be given, that is just a news company being a news company. You said it was a socialist, communist one, and well no, it isn't, just ask Mr. Turner.
Ted Turner is a complete Leftist who went to North Korea this year and explained that is was fine there.
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The Saudi's support terrorism
I asked you if the Saudi Royal Family supports Terrorism and asked if we should invade. You don't answer me.
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Liberalism is liberalism, socialism is socialism, make up your mind.
What's the difference? I repeat my questions because you repeat your nonsensical statements.
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Stop making "willy nilly" definitions of these things and just go read a simple overview of political ideologies. You are not a realist, your imagination is pretty vibrant though.
What have I missed? How are they different?

I continue to ask you about this and you change the subject. Anyway, Saddam is through and is never coming back.

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I have asked you to define them. You don't.Ted Turner is a complete Leftist who went to North Korea this year and explained that is was fine there.I asked you if the Saudi Royal Family supports Terrorism and asked if we should invade. You don't answer me.What's the difference? I repeat my questions because you repeat your nonsensical statements.What have I missed? How are they different?

I continue to ask you about this and you change the subject. Anyway, Saddam is through and is never coming back.

As I said, the Saudi's support terrorism yes, I will not say whether or not another country should go to war.

Liberalism is in support of the free market and capitalism, Socialism is not. Liberalism is for representative government. Liberalism is for government protection of individual rights (should they be infringed on). Liberalism is also for no class system.

Communism does not favor the free market, nor a system with no classes, nor the rights of the individual. (Although socialism to a lesser extent)

Socialism is the thought of common ownership of everything, free-market rules are far less, and the individual means less as well, there is also a class system to a lesser extent than that of communism.
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I have asked you to define them. You don't.Ted Turner is a complete Leftist who went to North Korea this year and explained that is was fine there.I asked you if the Saudi Royal Family supports Terrorism and asked if we should invade. You don't answer me.What's the difference? I repeat my questions because you repeat your nonsensical statements.What have I missed? How are they different?

I continue to ask you about this and you change the subject. Anyway, Saddam is through and is never coming back.

I don't change the subject, and you continue to ignore people who give you answers. You are quite the master debater. Considering everyone called Saddam communist or socialist. Did he keep his citizens safe? Were they allowed to live without the fear of being murdered. Were they all provided the same amount of education and health care, every person?

If there was any repression by force, that makes Saddam's era far closer to facist (on the right) than on the left.
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Old 11-09-2006
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Re: Saddam Sentenced to Death

Hanging is too quick an out for Saddam. Of course, it would send him to Hell sooner...
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Old 11-10-2006
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Re: Saddam Sentenced to Death

What do you think about Hussein being turned over to the UN to help with promoting the general welfare in Africa, as a form of community service?
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