So talking about the nature of negotiating with one's adversaries is out of line in a threat about different approaches to dealing with one's adversaries?

Actually, I was asking an honest question, but hey, since you don't want to discuss it, fine.

Matt

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Or the weaker side is just crushed.
We often think no war = peace. I find that funny. If we had gone to war in Rwanda in 1994 we could have saved those lives that were irradicated. Hitler probably would have talked with the allies as well. Meanwhile his forces would have been mobilizing ready for the surprise attack.
The fundamental problem is that many assume all sides would go at talks fairly and equally. This isn't true. You cannot trust people who kill for religion, who blow themselves up, or who scream death to the West. It is their fault we can't negotiate.

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"There is no place for the state in the bedrooms of the nation" - Pierre Trudeau

“No one is more enslaved than a slave who doesn't think they're enslaved.” - Kate Beckinsale

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

I'd love to discuss it sans your put downs. They make me tired.

I feel like Bush not wanting to talk to Ahmedinajad.

Please cite a single blessed thing I have posted in this thread that constitutes a "put down", oh she-who-labels-me-a-loyalist?

Just one.

Matt

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Did anyone ever mention that you guys sound like a married couple?

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- George Orwell, 1984

What do you mean it got us nowhere! We were running massive surpluses before the Republicans came into office.

We probably wouldn't be in the Middle East as much, and definitely not in Iraq the way we are now if Gore had won the election.

So, what has talking tough and manufacturing enemies of the state done for us?

Massive surpluses? Please, everyone knows that Clinton and the Admins covered things under the rug which made it look like a massive surplus. Look at the stock market scandals and the other crap that was being pulled.
Besides, what does that have to do with compromising?

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

A Middle East Union could be created at the UN level to promote the general welfare in the Middle East. Discussing the general welfare at the union level would probably not entail as much local fervor over religious attitudes.

How much of the social security fund did the party of massive surpluses have to raid?

It would have even less to compromise if we weren't in the Middle East on some sort of crusade, in the first place.

I love Matt, he just drives me crazy.

The problem is she sounds like that with anyone who has the temerity to actually oppose her positions more than once.

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That's it. I want a divorce.

That’s a gross exaggeration, Sam only has 14,976 posts. I believe it’s more like 300,000 (20 times in each post).

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I wish Mrs. M hadn't let the cat out of the bag. I think Samantha has caught on to us good capitalist pigs.