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Old 12-16-2006
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Re: Flight 77 Video Released: No Plane

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Anyways, of course I understood what you meant and I 100% disagree with this neo-con philosophy.

Bad people that do dark shit keep this world in the dark.

It is a fantasy to suggest that 'dark entities' must engage in 'dark actions' in order to ensure the safety and security of the world.

Someone that buys into that becomes a slave. Those are the bad people that make the world dark and they are the reason there is a need for saftey and security. Don't buy into a lie.
why is a neo con philosophy? You dont think the left is joining in on this? Every Democrat president had his skeletons in the closet.

And no, its not a fantasy. If America were to let the people vote on every single thing--the people would run it into the ground. The American people are too nice. If America had its way in the 40's--we wouldnt have gotten involved in WWII. Europe, with the idea that Stalin would eventually have overrun Hitler, would be a Communist stronghold to this day. His empire would have stretched everywhere. And we couldnt do shit about it because we just wanted to mind our own business. That of course isnt the case because we had rich and powerful men with foresight.
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Old 12-17-2006
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Matt (161),

In order to make it close enuff for Rove to steal (Ohio) he needed a war.

You DO know that is acknowledged to be a main motivation for Iraq, surely?
You specifically called it his "re-election". So you've finally acknowledged that he was re-elected, not the beneficiary of a coup.

Congratulations, Joao. You've begun some tentative steps toward reality.

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Old 12-17-2006
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Nope,

He was appointed by The Supreme Court in Bush v Gore.

You are looking in your navel to see the universe, Matt.
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And to showcase how far the Court went to support the coup:

Bush V Gore contradicted the general rule of law regarding which level of government has for determining election rules that has been in existence for our Republic's history.

For example:

"• Vanderbilt University law professor Suzanna Sherry maintained in the New York Times that "there is really very little way to reconcile this opinion other than that they wanted Bush to win."

• Harvard University law professor Randall Kennedy proclaimed in the American Prospect that Bush v. Gore was a "hypocritical mishmash of ideas," and that "the Court majority acted in bad faith and with partisan prejudice."

• University of Texas law professor Sanford Levinson asserted in the Nation that "Bush v. Gore is all too easily explainable as the decision by five conservative Republicans--at least two of whom are eager to retire and be replaced by Republicans nominated by a Republican president--to assure the triumph of a fellow Republican who might not become president if Florida were left to its own legal process."

• American University law professor Jamin Raskin opened an article in the Washington Monthly by describing the case as "quite demonstrably the worst Supreme Court decision in history," and proceeded to compare it unfavorably with the notorious Dred Scott decision.

• A total of 554 law professors from 120 American law schools placed a full-page ad in the New York Times on January 13, 2001, declaring that the justices had acted as "political proponents for candidate Bush, not as judges. . . . By taking power from the voters, the Supreme Court has tarnished its own legitimacy."

• Harvard University law professor Alan Dershowitz asserted in Supreme Injustice: How the High Court Hijacked Election 2000 that "the decision in the Florida election case may be ranked as the single most corrupt decision in Supreme Court history, because it is the only one that I know of where the majority justices decided as they did because of the personal identity and political affiliation of the litigants. This was cheating, and a violation of the judicial oath."

That's from 'The Professors And Bush V Gore'.
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and every count, by the vaunted NY times to the st petersburg times, found bush to be the winner..get over it....if you wanna drag out slop, check the Kennedy Nixon election......
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Nope,

He was appointed by The Supreme Court in Bush v Gore.

You are looking in your navel to see the universe, Matt.
And you, sir, are looking out your navel at the universe.

The Supreme Court did not appoint him. That is your interpretation of the highest court in the land's ruling.

No place in the ruling will you find the Court saying "we hereby appoint Bush as president".

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And you, sir, are looking out your navel at the universe.

The Supreme Court did not appoint him. That is your interpretation of the highest court in the land's ruling.

No place in the ruling will you find the Court saying "we hereby appoint Bush as president".

Matt
Funny how you can't say who did.
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why is a neo con philosophy? You dont think the left is joining in on this? Every Democrat president had his skeletons in the closet.
Especially Clinton.

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And no, its not a fantasy.
It's reality based on a fantasy ideal. That's what I'm saying.

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If America were to let the people vote on every single thing--the people would run it into the ground. The American people are too nice.
Repugnant. This makes absoultely no sense and it is based on ZERO facts. It is a fantasy and illusion to believe that Americans are too stupid to govern themselves. You are pretty much insulting American people to make a point. I don't see it and actually your commentary is filty nonsense. If it isn't, share some data and statistics that prove your claim. Complete absurdity. Please let those lies go.
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If America had its way in the 40's--we wouldnt have gotten involved in WWII. Europe, with the idea that Stalin would eventually have overrun Hitler, would be a Communist stronghold to this day. His empire would have stretched everywhere. And we couldnt do shit about it because we just wanted to mind our own business.
Says you right? Right. So since most of what you are saying is unfounded and baseless, I can simply toss your Reddalert-isms to the trash because.... because it just complete horseshit.

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That of course isnt the case because we had rich and powerful men with foresight.
INCREDIBLE! I'm absolutely speechless. You, sir, do not know what democracy is nor do I think you even care.
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