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Steve · #16 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

Why do we need witnesses? There's video that shows no plane. I am an eyewitness, I just saw the video - there was no plane.

In that shitty video, no, there was no plane. Then again, you can't even really tell that it's the Pentagon, either...

Ash · #17 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

I can't even get the video to play at this point!

Crystal · #18 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

As you can see from this video.... THERE IS NO PLANE!

YouTube - Flight77.info's FOIA Release: Doubletree Hotel 9/11

Video of 9/11 plane at Pentagon released - U.S. Security - MSNBC.com

Here's some video also that is much closer to the scene. Go ahead and forward about a 1:35 into the video.

What do you think of the Purdue University simulation?

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The simulation merges a realistic-looking visualization of the airliner approaching the building with a technical, science-based animation of the plane crashing into the structure.

The model indicates the most critical effects were from the mass moving at high velocity.

"At that speed, the plane itself is like a sausage skin," Sozen said. "It doesn't have much strength and virtually crumbles on impact."

But the combined mass of everything inside the plane – particularly the large amount of fuel onboard – can be likened to a huge river crashing into the building.

"Because the structural skeleton of the Pentagon had a high level of toughness, it was able to absorb much of the kinetic energy from the impact," said Christoph M. Hoffmann, a professor in the Department of Computer Sciences and at Purdue's Computing Research Institute.

"Most of the computer-simulated crashes you see in movies or on TV are not realistic from the point of view of physics," said Voicu Popescu, an assistant professor of computer science. "They are designed to be spectacular rather than realistic. What hasn't been done much, or, to our knowledge hasn't been done at all, is to create a visualization that looks realistic in the sense that you would recognize the Pentagon and the plane and is, at the same time, true to physics."

Maybe you're watching too many Hollywood action movies and are expecting something more like that. Or maybe those Purdue students are in on the cover up as well

Steve · #19 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Danno

I can't even get the video to play at this point!

You're not missing much.

I figure that, pretty soon, he'll post something which "proves" nothing flew into the World Trade Center.

Conspiracy nuts make me laugh...

Thematic-Device · #20 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Steve

In that shitty video, no, there was no plane. Then again, you can't even really tell that it's the Pentagon, either...

Well thats because theres no such thing as the pentagon, it was also a hoax.

Robodoon · #21 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

New 9/11 Pentagon video released, shows explosion and no plane

9/11 Blogger / CNN | December 3, 2006

Hotel security video shows 9/11 Pentagon blast, but no plane

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Flashback: Will Doubletree Hotel Video Show Pentagon Impact?

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A hotel security camera video released by the U.S. government showed the explosion that followed the crash of American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001, but the low-quality recording did not capture an image of the 757 jetliner.

The video, recorded by a security camera at the Doubletree Hotel in Arlington, was released to public interest group Judicial Watch and others who filed a lawsuit seeking the tape and other videos from that day.

CNN filed a Freedom of Information request for the video in February 2002, after the manager of the hotel disclosed its existence to CNN Senior Pentagon Correspondent Jamie McIntyre and said it had been confiscated by the FBI. CNN's FOI request was denied because at the time the tape was considered evidence in the investigation of Zacarias Moussaoui, who has since been convicted.

There was speculation that this video might show the American Airlines 757 jetliner before it crashed, but a close examination by CNN only revealed the subsequent explosion and no image of the jet. The only known record of the plane is on images from the Pentagon security camera, first broadcast by CNN in March of 2002, and officially released in their entirety May of this year. (Posted 8:43 a.m.)

New 9/11 Pentagon video released, shows explosion and no plane

Comment: Wheres the plane...the plane...

MattLarson · #22 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

Duplicate threads merged

MattLarson · #23 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

The CNN version states that the video comes from a hotel in Arlington.

It is on the other side of a major, elevated highway (Route 395), and on the opposite side of the building from the side where Flight 77 struck the Pentagon.

More overblown "evidence" from a bunch of pathetic morons who are so gullible as to buy this "no plane hit the Pentagon" bullshit.

Matt

Miranda · #24 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

Why do we need witnesses? There's video that shows no plane. I am an eyewitness, I just saw the video - there was no plane.

Conform...did you read that before you clicked the reply button?

*shakes head* walking away now...

jviehe · #25 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

BY the way, this pretty much takes care of the conspiracy

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/1227842.html

They wrote a whole book on it too.

http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-M.../dp/158816635X

IIIX · #26 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Jefe

I see a plane, or something that looks like it could be a plane. It's hard to tell, because this is such a blurry and distant video. The object moves from left to right, then disappears just before the explosion, at about the same location as the explosion. Look a little closer, and you'll see it.

You have a point ^^

Could just be a car thought. Anyway, this video obviously only preaches to believers

Steve · #27 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by IIIX

You have a point ^^

Could just be a car thought. Anyway, this video obviously only preaches to believers

Somebody drove a car into the side of the Pentagon???

doniston · #28 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

With your nonsense about how this is all a conspiracy theory and that even though video proves our point and you will forever be blind to the obvious because you simply refuse to believe your own eyes?

Yes, here we go again.

I did in fact see what was likely the plane traveling at a high rate opf speed, just before the smoke came. Slow motion would likely prove it.

doniston · #29 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by Rakkasan

CF please do not tell me there is no santa clause i wont be able to handle it

or worse dont tell me that santa is dead........

by theanthony1

OF course he is (repeat.)

We killed Santa and we are gonna get you, (and your little dog too) signed ?????

Robodoon · #30 (**permalink**) 12-05-2006

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

As you can see from this video.... THERE IS NO PLANE!

YouTube - Flight77.info's FOIA Release: Doubletree Hotel 9/11

And don't forget Rummy said a missile hit it.

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. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.

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