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Old 12-05-2006
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Re: Flight 77 Video Released: No Plane

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You can't conclude anything either way from this video.
If you want it to have credibility, first:
  • Establish that the shown explosion is actually the Pentagon and not a gas station blowing up in Shitville, West Dakota.
  • Proof -scientifically- that the video is not edited.
  • Identify the hotel, establish the angle at which the camera was filming at the time of the incident, make a topological study of the environment there (to establish whether the flight path was actually above the camera's horizon, obviously impeded by an elevated highway), and do the maths.
  • Check out the build and framerate of the camera to check whether it's actually capable of capturing the high speed passage of a plane (camera optics is a weird field, just ask the 'rod people')
If all the previous -apart from things I might've missed- would check out, yes, then, and only then there might be a problem. But I'm not holding my breath here.

Oh, not to mention how a video that is meant to show a government conspiracy has an official flight path indicator (in the form a red arrow, LOL)
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Old 12-05-2006
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All these 9/11 conspiracy threads do.

You missed some amazing hilarity in the "cell phones don't work in airplanes" thread.

When confronted with proof that they do, the head conspiracy fanatic declared it too complex to read, re-posted his anonymous internet quote that said they don't and declared victory.

It was truly funny, in a sad sort of way.

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None of these conspiracies are as entertaining as Kinetic maintaining that there is a super-secret ellipses club here...who are either rendering code with the ellipses or that myself...Steve...and several others who are on my ignore list are all one person sock-puppeting.

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I see a plane, or something that looks like it could be a plane. It's hard to tell, because this is such a blurry and distant video. The object moves from left to right, then disappears just before the explosion, at about the same location as the explosion. Look a little closer, and you'll see it.
What leaves a 16' hole? A Plane? .... and what goes 3 layers deep via a 16' hole?
A plane?

Where are the engines?

Where are their marks on the buildings?

PS get that great picture you had before...that was good stuff Well one of the best avatars pics I've seen.
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As you can see from this video.... THERE IS NO PLANE!

YouTube - Flight77.info's FOIA Release: Doubletree Hotel 9/11
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Old 12-05-2006
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Re: Flight 77 Video Released: No Plane

I can't see shit from that video. It appears to be on the far side of the Pentagon and the plane would be going so fast, the quality of the video isn't high enough to even catch it. Sorry.
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Re: Flight 77 Video Released: No Plane

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What leaves a 16' hole? A Plane? .... and what goes 3 layers deep via a 16' hole?
A plane?

Where are the engines?

Where are their marks on the buildings?

PS get that great picture you had before...that was good stuff Well one of the best avatars pics I've seen.


A 16' hole? Are you kidding? Have you ever seen the pentagon? Did you see the hole? Do you have any idea of just how large the pentagon is? The hole was freaking huge. Over 100 feet wide at least.
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Old 12-05-2006
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To bad you guys CAN'T show me the plane.

I like the millions of angles you guys try to respond, but, in the end, you guys can't show me a plane hitting the pentagon.

Let's just think for a minute - there are hundreds of cameras on the Pentagon, not one can be produced to show a plane so you guys are left with ignorant, stupid, retarded responses that says nothing except explain your denial and not provide any evidence to contradict what I can prove with video.

Every single one of you need to face that fact.
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Re: Flight 77 Video Released: No Plane

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To bad you guys CAN'T show me the plane.

I like the millions of angles you guys try to respond, but, in the end, you guys can't show me a plane hitting the pentagon.
Actually, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing any footage of a truck laden with explosives blowing up the Oklahoma City federal building in '93. Maybe it wasn't a truck after all? Unless someone can produce the footage, I won't believe it. Actually, the more I think about it, I haven't seen footage of the actual dropping of the atomic bombs in Japan at the end of WW2. Maybe it didn't happen? Unless someone can produce actual footage of the event, perhaps I'll just refuse to believe it.....

Still, I HAVE seen footage of Captain Janeway fighting the Borg in the Delta Quadrant, so that obviously proves that the Borg exist, and that we already have developed inter-stellar flight, and are already members of an inter-spacial Federation.....
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Actually, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing any footage of a truck laden with explosives blowing up the Oklahoma City federal building in '93. Maybe it wasn't a truck after all? Unless someone can produce the footage, I won't believe it. Actually, the more I think about it, I haven't seen footage of the actual dropping of the atomic bombs in Japan at the end of WW2. Maybe it didn't happen? Unless someone can produce actual footage of the event, perhaps I'll just refuse to believe it.....

Still, I HAVE seen footage of Captain Janeway fighting the Borg in the Delta Quadrant, so that obviously proves that the Borg exist, and that we already have developed inter-stellar flight, and are already members of an inter-spacial Federation.....
I said show me the god damn plane, I don't give a shit about your circular bullshit. Show me a plane hitting the Pentagon.

That's not too fucking hard to do since the Pentagon is fortified with cameras. Can you do it?! NO! So why are you harping on me because I can prove no plane hit the Pentagon with all the videos provided?!

I want proof, not bullshit that says nothing.

YOU CAN'T SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON!

OPEN YOUR EYES AND CONCEDE THE TRUTH! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF A PLANE EVER HITTING THE PENTAGON!

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What leaves a 16' hole? A Plane? .... and what goes 3 layers deep via a 16' hole?
A plane?

Where are the engines?
Here is a piece of one, inside the Pentagon:



Of course, you'll not believe that. My favorite explanation from the Conspiracy Club is that pieces of airplane wreckage were planted in the building.

Of course, only a true mental midget could think that one could plant these large, heavy pieces of wreckage (as well as the body parts, seat parts, etc) in the couple of minuted between the impact and the arrival of the first responders.

But mental midgets are the lifeblood of this "no plane" theory.

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I said show me the god damn plane, I don't give a shit about your circular bullshit. Show me a plane hitting the Pentagon.

That's not too fucking hard to do since the Pentagon is fortified with cameras. Can you do it?! NO! So why are you harping on me because I can prove no plane hit the Pentagon with all the videos provided?!

I want proof, not bullshit that says nothing.

YOU CAN'T SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON!

OPEN YOUR EYES AND CONCEDE THE TRUTH! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF A PLANE EVER HITTING THE PENTAGON!
Right - the plane impact is not at all demonstrated by the wreckage, the eyewitness accounts, the big fucking hole in the building.....



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I can't see shit from that video. It appears to be on the far side of the Pentagon and the plane would be going so fast, the quality of the video isn't high enough to even catch it. Sorry.
In the OP's world, the lack of images of the plane on a camera from the other side of the building (in fact, on the other side of an elevated highway as well) means something.

Don't be sorry for being too smart to buy that nonsense.

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I said show me the god damn plane, I don't give a shit about your circular bullshit. Show me a plane hitting the Pentagon.

That's not too fucking hard to do since the Pentagon is fortified with cameras. Can you do it?! NO! So why are you harping on me because I can prove no plane hit the Pentagon with all the videos provided?!

I want proof, not bullshit that says nothing.

YOU CAN'T SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON!

OPEN YOUR EYES AND CONCEDE THE TRUTH! THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF A PLANE EVER HITTING THE PENTAGON!
Ah, have you forgotten the video from the security camera at the Pentagon? There is a plane in it. I realize youll just come up with some conspiracy as to why it isnt a plane, but then I think at least then YOUR video is neutralized as neither of us can conclusively prove that there is or isnt a plane in either of the videos.

Oh, except for the missing plane and people, the wreckage of said plane and people in the Pentagon, and the eyewitnesses who saw the plane.
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As you can see from this video.... THERE IS NO PLANE!

YouTube - Flight77.info's FOIA Release: Doubletree Hotel 9/11
Yea, jets kinda have a cruising speed of over ¼ mile a second. There’s about one in ten chance of catching one in a frame of a hundred yards.
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I want proof, not bullshit that says nothing.
Somehow I think you got it backwards in terms of "conceding the truth"
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