Blanket denial is always more dangerous

...if only because it refuses to consider the possibility.

Gem

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The plane blew up.

And another nine pages devoted to the proposition that delusions can be supported when one is truly dedicated to maintaining fantasy.

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Personally, after seeing that footage of the plane flying overhead and smashing into the Towers with the guys on the street in NYC screaming "Holy shit!!!" and "What the Fuck?!!!" I have to actually refrain fom making any sort of "absolute" judgement on this matter. For me the real questions that need to be asked are why these people that perpretrate these acts of terrorism hate us so, and what have been the policies of our government and our multi-national corporations over the years that have lead to the terrorist attacks upon our nation and our interests abroad. To merely focus on the attacks and not the sources of the rage that drives these terrorists totally misses the point. After all, people don't generally go around hating and attacking people for no reason. It definitely does not absolve these people or justify their actions but it would be wise to ask ourselves why these terrorists do what they do and what part we may have played in bringing these terrorists attacks about.

Gem

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"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
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I think you may like this article, then. Well, maybe not. I've only read a quarter or so of the page, but it sounds as though it approaches the issue of September 11th in the same manner as you wish to. Note that it was only written several weeks after the crime.

[Scoop: Michael Rowbotham: Written In Belief]

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Each man's death diminishes me,
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For whom the bell tolls;
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What makes a man rob a bank or rape a woman?

The bank? The woman?

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Having done neither I can't say I know.

Gem

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The woman? How very Islamic of you!

Gem

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>Originally Posted by gem: For me the real questions that need to be asked are why these people that perpretrate these acts of terrorism hate us so, and what have been the policies of our government and our multi-national corporations over the years that have lead to the terrorist attacks upon our nation and our interests abroad.

I could tell a hudred good reasons why e.g. Cubans, Iragies, Iranies, Pakistanies, Syrians, S Arabians, Palestinians, Sout/Central Americans, Vietnamese, Korean, etc could attack USA. USA has a right to consider its own interests, but not with the expenses of other independent countries... definitely not by sucking their resources and attacking them.

However, in this case the explanation is much simpler. Nobody has shown any hatered towards USA in 911. A problem was that the long-term strategy of USA's foreign policy and US people's moral and financial support needed to have a boost. As PNAC is saying it, a new Pearl Harbor was required. According to new research P Harbor was an inside job planned and organized by president Roosevelt and about 30 other governmental people. You can sleep well - it was the CIA who organized the show of 911 and everything was to the well-being of your oil and war industry, which will bring wealth to everybody in USA (and killing elsewhere). This is the fact!

Show you the plane.

Well, we can't show you Amelia Earharts plane, so does that mean it never crashed?

I wonder if the pics would not be allowed to be distributed, since they would involve showing the inside of the Pentagon.

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There are pictures of the wreckage in the building. I posted one in this very thread.

Only a few conspiracy fanatics contend that no plane hit the Pentagon. Frankly, they are incapable of understanding any proof provided, and they will never be satisfied.

Call it stubbornly willful ignorance.

Matt

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Matt - you have a hopelessly desperate task to convince your countrymen that there was a plane. It is much better to ask the government to do this job. They should give the black boxes (which were found) to the professional laboratory and publish the record. They should also release the flight records and tapes recorded in the flight control. Also the US air defence should have a say why they completely failed (this could never happen in my country where we have air defence). Some materials have been published (also in the net), but the material is either unreliable or clearly fake. The airlines should also explain, why there are no the names of the foreign hi-jackers in the passenger lists. This total omission cannot increase the credibility of your government... I am sure that the educated Americans would not tolerate this for long time.

The pictures of the wreckage, the eyewitnesses to the collision and - oh yeah - the hundreds of missing passengers provide ample and sufficient evidence.

Only someone who wants to see all this shadowy nonsense can overlook the overwhelming evidence of Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.

Matt

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