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Dogsbody · #31 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

Israel controls the USA.

Jessie · #32 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Dogsbody

Israel controls the USA.

QFT :

"The JEWS who Run Bush and the USA"
"AMERICA'S RULERS - Are They All Jews? Is this like the Jewish Administration of Hitler's Germany?"
THE JEWS IN George II's CABINET

The JEWS who Run Bush and the USA

Captain Trips · #33 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

Well no shit ? We just figger this out ?

jviehe · #34 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

Israel seems to be one of those topics like Iraq. Its just pointless to argue. The fact that Iran holds a conference on whether the holocaust happend or not should make things pretty obvious.

Apparently there is a school of thought that "Isreal can do no right".

varrussword · #35 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

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In Europe Israel is seen as the second biggest threat to global peace after USA.

Jane's Products

Fortunately european opinions don't mean sh*t here in america; and for good reason. Thanks for providing a glaring example.

Varus

varrussword · #36 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

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Yes, there was a long story about that in the Jane's military catalogue and in their web pages - I gave the link to that. Actually, early this year there were many news about that (at least in EU). Also, the Israelies make a violent threath to use those bombs against Iran and said that the Americans will support them in all the cases. Certainly that was not in the news in USA, but e.g. BBC reported those news.

This issue has been many times also in the UN, but USA has always stopped the discussion by using its veto rights. This is a real axes of evel ... USA-Israel - nobody can stop those countries to obey international rules.

Isn't that cute a european that thinks the US is the axis of evil. And the europeans think we give a d*mn what they think?

Varus

dal · #37 (**permalink**) 12-13-2006

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That's because you only choose to see one side of a coin. Ever heard of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is in place to prevent additional countries from acquiring nuclear weapons. If these weapons are allowed to proliferate dictators will use them to blackmail the rest of the world.

Because democracies use them as war deterrents. Iran and North Korea would use them to blackmail other countries.

You got to be kidding: democracy vs dictatorship, for starters.

Yes but the religious fundamentalists in the US are as a majority peaceful and out to help eliminate poverty, abuse, and immorality, not concur the world for their god. Plus the US has separation of church and state while Iran is a theocracy. Not to mention that Muslim fundamentalists believe in spreading their faith by sword if necessary. The only religion left on the planet that has not gone through an enlightenment period.

Iran is by no stretch of the imagination a peaceful country. Look at their last 50 years of history. Look at their present talks concerning the legitimacy of the holocaust. It is foolish not to take the Iranian leader at his word. He is bent on destroying Israel.

As far as Israel successfully destroying countries. Every conflict Israel has been in has been started by an Muslim nation. They have a right to defend themselves.

As far as America successfully destroying countries. What country did we destroy? Iraq? That is funny really. We sent precise missiles to take out a dictator who violated every sanction he had imposed on him by the UN. Since then we have rebuilt what we have destroyed and added schools and other infrastructure in Iraq. I hardly call that destroying a country. What other country in the planet has their military rebuild a country. Oh yea the US is bad! How dare they be such humanitarians!!!

You are a poor judge of character.

you have a very ideal view of your country. its good to be patriotic of your country but give me a break. seperation of church and state, the right wing christian conservatives in your country have huge influence, all congressmen, senators, presidents etc must swear on the bible and almost every speech bush uses the word god. seperation odf church and state on paper maybe.

iran is a democratically elected country but i do think their leader is a nut case and they shouldnt have nuclear weapons but i also believe that bush is a retarded wacko and america or any other country shouldn't possess them either.

america has destroyed iraq, wether it be indirectly or not, and the military hasnt rebuilt shit. its private contractors like haliburton who wersupposed to rebuild but they have only takin the money and accomplished nothing. there are no roads, electricity, water, etc. this is only what ive read as ive never been to iraq. you obviously read different newspapers than i and the majority of the rest of the world.

hairballxavier · #38 (**permalink**) 12-14-2006

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Remember the invasion of Iraq? Remember the REASON we were told we had to invade Iraq, because Iraq had NOOKULAR BOMBS!

I never heard anyone claim that Iraq had nuclear bombs, let alone say that is why "we had to invade Iraq".
Where did you come up with that crap?
Got a source?

I could give you 100's of sources.
Do you feel like a fool not knowing this ?

Then why don't you give a source that claimed Iraq had nuclear bombs?

Where is this source?

l234 · #39 (**permalink**) 12-16-2006

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"That's because you only choose to see one side of a coin. Ever heard of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. It is in place to prevent additional countries from acquiring nuclear weapons. If these weapons are allowed to proliferate dictators will use them to blackmail the rest of the world. "

Israel of course refuses to even sign the NPT.

jviehe · #40 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006

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Israel of course refuses to even sign the NPT.

As well they should since it is pointless. Iran, Iraq and North Korea had both signed it.

noahath · #41 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006

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Then why don't you give a source that claimed Iraq had nuclear bombs?

Where is this source?

Why don't you look for some sources yourself? It isn't hard. If you type "Iraq nuclear weapons" into Google the very first response you get is a transcript of a speech Bush gave which is posted on the official White House site, whereby he states that Iraq is seeking nukes.
President Bush Outlines Iraqi Threat

hairballxavier · #42 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006

Noahath, do you really think the forum is too fucking stupid to understand what a strawman is?

noahath · #43 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006

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Noahath, do you really think the forum is too fucking stupid to understand what a strawman is?

Is that a rhetorical question?

conformfailure · #44 (**permalink**) 12-17-2006

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Originally Posted by jviehe

Israel seems to be one of those topics like Iraq. Its just pointless to argue. The fact that Iran holds a conference on whether the holocaust happend or not should make things pretty obvious.

Apparently there is a school of thought that "Isreal can do no right".

And you assume that they can based on what?

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