Oh, please.

Do you not see any downside to the use of recreational drugs, apart from the "questioning the government" thing?

Like maybe crime, disease, etc?

Matt

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Alcohol causes more crime than any drug. Sirosis, drunk driving accidents, mruder, suicide, etc... You can get diseases like AIDS or the jack by getting busy with some chick while you're drunk. I don't see them outlawing alcohol anytime soon. I never hear of some dude smoking weed and going home to beat his wife. I DO hear that from stories about alcoholism though.

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Seen it, smelt it, knelt in it.

True, but pointing to alcohol and saying the others are not worse is hardly a convincing argument.

I've seen people die as a result of some pothead smoking a bowl or two and driving. I've also seen the fun that results from some PCP user getting wild and woolly.

And I've had to tell a mother than her ~15 year old child is dead from an overdose or reaction to an illicit drug more than once. Come give that a shot, and then tell me the only reason this stuff is contraband is because it "causes people to question the government".

As for alcohol, I don't drink and I think alcohol is one of the most pointless drugs there is.

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Alcohol is legal. I am conveying that it can do just as much damage, if not, more, than illegal drugs. I have never heard of a pothead getting into an accident. Pot makes people paranoid and they become extra cautious on the road. Speaking from experience here from when I was a teen.

Alcohol can kill you just as fast as any drug.

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Personally I don't have any problem with Marijuana, but to say that you can drive safely after using it is kind of silly. Smoking Marijuana causes the same loss of coordination that drinking alcohol does and paranoia doesn't make you a better driver when your high any more then it makes you a better driver when you are drunk.

But in response to your arguement Marijuana is probably the only drug you can really compare to alcohol. Crack, Heroin, Meth and PCP are all in an entirly different category. If you took a guy who has been smoking crack for just a year or so and placed him next to a hard core 20 year alcoholic. That alcoholic is going to look like an olympic athelete next to the crack user, plus alcoholics don't typically break into your car and steal your car stereo to pay for another drink the way users of hard drugs commonly do to support their habbit.

You missed the part about "speaking from experience"

So how many car crashes do you think result from drunk driving versus maryjane smokers?

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Speaking from experience? Who? Me or you?

I'd say the number is smaller just because the number of people who smoke Marijuana is smaller then the number of people who drink. But if you put someone who is completely drunk in a car and then put a guy who is stoned out of his mind in a car and tell them both to drive home, the odds of them causing an accident on the way home is about the same.

I find that hard to believe. Smoking and drinking cause different parts of the brain to be affected. Alcohol affects motor coordination. Weed doesn't affect as much and possibly not at all.

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On the contrary:

InfoFacts - Marijuana

This is why I love science...

Marijuana Not a Factor in Driving Accidents

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Obviously one can find anything online to support one's positions.

Fact Sheet - MARIJUANA

Marijuana's Effects on Actual Driving Performance

The second study I posted indicated that smoking about 2-3 'marijuana cigarettes' caused impairment similar to a BAC level of .03-.07. No testing was done on persons who smoked larger amounts of Marijuana (IE bong). Now a BAC level of .03-.07 is not a significant amount and is under the legal limit of intoxication in most states. However as noted above a combination of alcohol and marijuana is worse for your driving ability then either of the two by themselves.

Now as I have noted previously I have no problem with the legalization of Marijuana or any other typ of drugs. As long as my tax dollars arn't wasted caring for these idiots down the road when they realize they have ruined their lives.

It's been a long time since I've smoked pot, but I know the last thing I'd want to try to do after getting high was drive...

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Your article points out that the combination of drinking and using maryjane is the worst, which is obvious. If 2-3 joints are still under the legal limit compared to the limit of alcohol, then that tells me less accidents are caused from solely smoking. Thanks. I appreciate the help...

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Drinking 2-3 beers will also still have you under the legal limit, whats your point?

Depends on how the alcohol affects you by body weight and general tolerance... are they properly hydrated? are they binge drinkers? did they eat?

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