Originally Posted by IronMaiden27

Depends on how the alcohol affects you by body weight and general tolerance... are they properly hydrated? are they binge drinkers? did they eat?

Originally Posted by IronMaiden27

I would rather be in a car with someone stoned rather than someone who drank.

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Oh, please.

Do you not see any downside to the use of recreational drugs, apart from the "questioning the government" thing?

Like maybe crime, disease, etc?

Matt

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Seen it, smelt it, knelt in it.



True, but pointing to alcohol and saying the others are not worse is hardly a convincing argument.

Originally Posted by Robert

Personally I don't have any problem with Marijuana, but to say that you can drive safely after using it is kind of silly. Smoking Marijuana causes the same loss of coordination that drinking alcohol does and paranoia doesn't make you a better driver when your high any more then it makes you a better driver when you are drunk.

But in response to your arguement Marijuana is probably the only drug you can really compare to alcohol. Crack, Heroin, Meth and PCP are all in an entirly different category. If you took a guy who has been smoking crack for just a year or so and placed him next to a hard core 20 year alcoholic. That alcoholic is going to look like an olympic athelete next to the crack user, plus alcoholics don't typically break into your car and steal your car stereo to pay for another drink the way users of hard drugs commonly do to support their habbit.

Originally Posted by Slon

Crime increases as a result of the drugs being illegal, not because of their effects, a lot of the time.

Originally Posted by Slon

Have you ever considered that many of the overdoses occur because the stuff is sold without labels describing the concentration, as, for example, on alcohol bottles? Of course not.

Originally Posted by Slon

Not to mention that it would be much harder for the alcoholic to quit, since alcohol can and does cause death when long-term addicts drop it. As for stealing, they probably wouldn't need to steal if the prices of those drugs were not as inflated as they are due to their illegal status.

Originally Posted by jotathought

Then why is alcohol, a legal drug, a part of much crime in the United States [much less the world]? DUI, assault, battery, manslaughter, etc.?

Originally Posted by MattLarson

Actually yes, but since you have already reached the unsupported conclusion that I have not, there is no need to discuss it with you.

Matt

Originally Posted by Robert

While it might be true that alot of the theft from drug addicts occurrs due to the high price of the drug, I am willing to bet that even if the drug was alot cheaper it wouldn't alleviate that problem since hard core drugs eliminate a persons ability to make a living. I also don't believe that the effects of alcohol are nearly as drastic on the individual user as are the effects of hard drugs, epecially Crack cocaine.

Originally Posted by Slon

Okay, but answer this one: why do you think it is the government's job to tell people what they can and cannot do to their own bodies? If you're worried about drugs causing people to become antisocial and unable to keep a job, why not pass laws that ban antisocial activity and force people to hold jobs?

Originally Posted by Robert

Ummmm actually I've posted about 3 times on this thread that I don't have any problem with the legalization of drugs. Just as long as my tax money isn't used to support these idiots.