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Old 12-22-2006
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Okay, then we are in agreement. Pro-legalization, anti-welfare (including welfare for drug addicts).
Yes sir, that is my position.
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Old 12-22-2006
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One of the first things the Democrats will have to do is pass the budget that this Congress just didn't have time for with their hectic 103 day work year, that's the equivalent to over twenty weeks of work..........
In order to speed up the process, they have will eliminate thousands of pork barrel projects, saving the taxpayers billions. Under the watchful eyes of the GOP, pork barrel spending exploded, with nearly ten times as many earmarks as when the Democrats last held the House gavel, well, all that's over now.
BREITBART.COM - Dems to Wipe Out Pet Projects in Bills
I just found this thread and haven't gotten through all 7 pages, so if this is old news, I apologize.
I will believe it, and applaud it, if/when it happens.
I found this ironic" "There will be no congressional earmarks," Rep. David Obey, D-Wis., and Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., said Monday in a statement announcing their plans, which were quickly endorsed by incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D- Nev.
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As official Washington got down on its knees before the American people to sell the 1990 budget agreement, it declared that spending had been cut to the bone and a tax increase was essential to reducing the federal deficit. The 1992 Pig Book clearly demonstrates that this was a big lie! Instead of reducing our deficit, the 1990 tax increase is funding more than $8 billion worth of pork-barrel projects, and the deficit will skyrocket in 1993 to an unprecedented $400 billion.

Pork-barrel spending includes programs which serve no national interest, such as roads which go virtually nowhere, “scientific studies” which yield no practical data, or acquisition of property and construction of projects which benefit a limited number of people or special interests.

This year’s “Pork King” title goes to Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV). Byrd used his position as chairman of the Appropriations Committee to funnel $510.8 million in special projects and earmarks to his home state of West Virginia.
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Talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.
BTW, the Democrats controlled Congress at the time.
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Old 12-22-2006
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The Cold Shoulder Award
to Senator Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) for $325 million in pork for Alaska.

The Flushing our Money Down the Toilet Award
to Representative Vernon Ehlers (R-Mich.) for $1 million for the Waterfree Urinal Conservation Initiative.

The Pacific Fleeced Award
to Senator Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) for his $482 million in pork for Hawaii.


The Flood of Pork Award
for $100 million for Energy and Water pork in the state of Senator Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and Representative Rodney Alexander (R-La.).


The Unlucky Charm Award
for $13.5 million for the International Fund for Ireland, which includes funding for the World Toilet Summit.

The Moooving our Money Award
to Senator Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) for $250,000 for the National Cattle Congress in Waterloo, Iowa.


The Tempest in a Teapot Award
for $500,000 for the Sparta Teapot Museum in Sparta, North Carolina.

The Drama Queen Award
to Representative Anne Northup (R-Ky.) for her help in securing $150,000 for the Actors Theater in Louisville, Kentucky.

The Hole Lotta Waste Award
for $5 million to the Capitol Visitor Center.

The Cool Hand Duke Award
for $5 million for a Provost Marshall screening facility at Miramar Marine Corps Air Station in the district of newly incarcerated former Representative Randy “Duke” Cunningham (R-Calif.).

The Taxpayers are Knocked Out (TKO) Award
to Senator Harry Reid (D-Nev.) for $100,000 for the Richard Steele Boxing Club in Henderson, Nevada.


The Kick in the Glass Award
for $550,000 for the Museum of Glass in Tacoma, Washington.

The Taxpayers Get Stuffed Award
for $234,000 for the National Wild Turkey Federation in Edgefield, South Carolina.

The Molehill into a Mountain Award
to Representative Alan Mollohan (D-W.Va.) for $2.2 million for the MountainMade Foundation, a nonprofit organization that he helped set up.
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What's that famous quote....Oh yeah, "Physician heal thy self".
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Old 12-22-2006
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Personally I don't have any problem with Marijuana, but to say that you can drive safely after using it is kind of silly. Smoking Marijuana causes the same loss of coordination that drinking alcohol does and paranoia doesn't make you a better driver when your high any more then it makes you a better driver when you are drunk.

But in response to your arguement Marijuana is probably the only drug you can really compare to alcohol. Crack, Heroin, Meth and PCP are all in an entirly different category. If you took a guy who has been smoking crack for just a year or so and placed him next to a hard core 20 year alcoholic. That alcoholic is going to look like an olympic athelete next to the crack user, plus alcoholics don't typically break into your car and steal your car stereo to pay for another drink the way users of hard drugs commonly do to support their habbit.
That's because alcohol is cheap and readily available. If drugs were legal, they'd be cheap and readily available so stealing your stereo wouldn't be as much of a concern either. Take the risk out of selling drugs and you'll take the bulk of the cost out of them as well. Add to that, more space in prisons for real criminals, less court time and the benefits keep mounting. The downside is that crack addicts will still be crack addicts. Same old, same old.
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That's because alcohol is cheap and readily available. If drugs were legal, they'd be cheap and readily available so stealing your stereo wouldn't be as much of a concern either. Take the risk out of selling drugs and you'll take the bulk of the cost out of them as well. Add to that, more space in prisons for real criminals, less court time and the benefits keep mounting. The downside is that crack addicts will still be crack addicts. Same old, same old.
Like I said, I have no problem with the legalization of drugs, the only problem I foresee is a cry from the left to use my tax dollars to support all these baseheads after they have ruined thier lives.
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Old 12-24-2006
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Poverty is not good for the economy because the less people earn, the less they are able to buy. Plus, it can possibly bring on serious problems like sickness and disease, provided we yank the welfare carpet out from under them and they become homeless. Would you prefer homeless or welfare recipients in your neighborhood?
I'd perfer homeless. There's less incentive for them to procreate.
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Like I said, I have no problem with the legalization of drugs, the only problem I foresee is a cry from the left to use my tax dollars to support all these baseheads after they have ruined thier lives.
I'm a firm beoiever in legalizing drugs and requiring self-determination. Want to get high? Fine, but you won't get a dime of my money should you decide to do so is my philosophy.
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Like I said, I have no problem with the legalization of drugs, the only problem I foresee is a cry from the left to use my tax dollars to support all these baseheads after they have ruined thier lives.
Half the people in federal prison are there on drug charges. You are already paying for it... that is fact.

The problem you fear is based on speculation.

Most baseheads are very good at getting their own money. They are very productive because cocaine is a performance enhancing drug.
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Most baseheads are very good at getting their own money. They are very productive because cocaine is a performance enhancing drug.
so are steriods...
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One of the first things the Democrats will have to do is pass the budget that this Congress just didn't have time for with their hectic 103 day work year, that's the equivalent to over twenty weeks of work..........
In order to speed up the process, they have will eliminate thousands of pork barrel projects, saving the taxpayers billions. Under the watchful eyes of the GOP, pork barrel spending exploded, with nearly ten times as many earmarks as when the Democrats last held the House gavel, well, all that's over now.
BREITBART.COM - Dems to Wipe Out Pet Projects in Bills
that sure would be nice, but ill believe it when i see it. what ever the dems do im sure it will be an improvment from the republicans which spent like drunken sailors...tomc
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Very true.....But what can one expect when political and other powerful figures are the ones bringing it in..........I don't have proof, just a strong gut feeling on it that's all.
funny you brought that up,when out founding fathers wrote the constitution they had set forth a message to the future leaders to call a conference together of delegetes from all states to revise and rewrite the constitution so it could better service the american people. now over two hundred+ years later still no constitutional delegation, just one patch job after another(amendments). maybe this is what our country needs,with every proposal out for all to read and ask there reps for clearafication....tomc
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I'm a firm beoiever in legalizing drugs and requiring self-determination. Want to get high? Fine, but you won't get a dime of my money should you decide to do so is my philosophy.
robert, im afraid they would get your money and everyone elses money. who do you think would pay the goverment to creat or harvist the drugs,us the tax payer. congress would turn into one big stonerd convention. crews flying the plan your on , put the plane on autopilot and get stoned ,why not its legal...tomc
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that sure would be nice, but ill believe it when i see it. what ever the dems do im sure it will be an improvment from the republicans which spent like drunken sailors...tomc
And what would you call LBJ's $7Trillion War on Poverty? Spending like a drunken fleet?
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robert, im afraid they would get your money and everyone elses money. who do you think would pay the goverment to creat or harvist the drugs,us the tax payer. congress would turn into one big stonerd convention. crews flying the plan your on , put the plane on autopilot and get stoned ,why not its legal...tomc
Ah tomc, alcohol is legal. Where are all the drunken pilots?
If anybody had incentive to stay sober, it'd be a pilot. He sits in the nose of that giagantic bullet and is the first one killed when it hits the ground.
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And what would you call LBJ's $7Trillion War on Poverty? Spending like a drunken fleet?
Nice, going back to 1964 for an example of Democratic spending..........
Really, it speaks volumes........
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