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Good for you.

Then where do you get your silly ideas about economics? I can't help but imagine a bunch of 16 year old kids sitting around a table passing the joint saying things like, "They raise prices when they make higher profits so they can regulate profits." "Yeah that's it, they are just trying to keep us down."

Maybe thats not where you got your ideas. But that's sure what it sounds like.
That's your opinion. Not my problem you think that way. I could say the same about you, but I am not a 16 year old and choose not to act like one.
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I'll get to the other replies in a momment. I have to go momentarily.
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Re: Democrats cut Billions in Pork

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That's your opinion. Not my problem you think that way. I could say the same about you, but I am not a 16 year old and choose not to act like one.
Just trying to illustrate how nonsensical your economic theories are.
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You can't starve out and take their homes away by cutting welfare.
Says who?

I'm fairly certain that it says nowhere in the Constitution that the government has a duty to take money from the hard working people of America and hand it over to those too stupid to manage their own lives property. If you can find that part of the Constitution where it dictates that please share it with us, but I'm pretty sure it's not there.

So, yes, you can cut welfare and if they end up on the streets that's the result of their actions and their choices in life. As for the children affected by it, that's life.
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I've worked at top companies in their field. Trust me, this is how they run.
No, they don't. I am in banking and I heavily invest. I assure you, I am far more well versed in how the business world works than you will ever be in your lifetime I imagine.

Trust ME. You don't know what you're talking about and you just need to stop talking. Instead try listening and you might actually learn something.
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No, they don't. I am in banking and I heavily invest. I assure you, I am far more well versed in how the business world works than you will ever be in your lifetime I imagine.

Trust ME. You don't know what you're talking about and you just need to stop talking. Instead try listening and you might actually learn something.
What's your deal? Why are you so pompous?

Regualting profit is what businesses do. If businesses weren't about profit, then there would be no point in running a business. Sheesh. How can that be untrue? I don't care if you work at a bank. I've worked at large corporations. If one of the companies I worked at didn't continue to increase profit, they wouldn't have become a monopoly.
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That's your opinion. Not my problem you think that way. I could say the same about you, but I am not a 16 year old and choose not to act like one.
I'm sorry Iron, but the statement he is quoting really doesn't make sense. I think you may have misstated ----at any rate, I think you should go back and correct it. You were wrong.
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Says who?

I'm fairly certain that it says nowhere in the Constitution that the government has a duty to take money from the hard working people of America and hand it over to those too stupid to manage their own lives property. If you can find that part of the Constitution where it dictates that please share it with us, but I'm pretty sure it's not there.

So, yes, you can cut welfare and if they end up on the streets that's the result of their actions and their choices in life. As for the children affected by it, that's life.
You've never heard of the 16th amendment? The gov't has every right to take taxes from your income and use it in any way they wish - no censorship.
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Just trying to illustrate how nonsensical your economic theories are.
Good for you. Want a cookie?
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Good for you. Want a cookie?
No thats ok, the cookie was probably just mass produced in some faceless factory run by an oppressive economic overlord who laughes as he rapes the working class for every penny they have. I couldn't have that on my head.

I'm willing to offer you free economic lessons though if you are interested in learning.
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You've never heard of the 16th amendment? The gov't has every right to take taxes from your income and use it in any way they wish - no censorship.

Well, one interpretation of the Constitution is that the federal government can only spend our money on a few certain things, with the rest being delegated to the states. That interpretation was overruled in the 1930s.

Frankly, while I don't subscribe to it completely, I think we'd be better off if the feds were doing less and the states were doing more.
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Regualting profit is what businesses do. If businesses weren't about profit, then there would be no point in running a business. Sheesh. How can that be untrue?
Of course they are there to make profit. The way you seem to think they regulate their profit is completely nonsensical.
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Well, one interpretation of the Constitution is that the federal government can only spend our money on a few certain things, with the rest being delegated to the states. That interpretation was overruled in the 1930s.

Frankly, while I don't subscribe to it completely, I think we'd be better off if the feds were doing less and the states were doing more.
Now, give THAT MAN a cookie!!!!
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Now, give THAT MAN a cookie!!!!
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Of course they are there to make profit. The way you seem to think they regulate their profit is completely nonsensical.
You mean there are no profit goals in business? Come on, man. Really.
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