A U.S. military 'at its breaking point' considers foreign recruits - Page 2 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Alex · #16 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America

That really sums it up well.

As Jviehe has pointed out, the military is meeting all of their recruitment goals. It's into the circular file for this one.....

proUSA · #17 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America

Some Port Ricans went through basic training when I did back in 82... as you said, nothing new.

doniston · #18 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by varrussword

I just wanted to highlight this again. The military is not struggling to meet recruiting goals. Everything else is just liberal rhetoric.

Varus

There seem to be two schools of thought on this. one says we have enouigh, the other says we don't. I think I prefer to wait until we find out which story is accurate. However, I seem to recall that the services all LOWERED their requirements a couple of months ago to line up with the story that we have enough. and lowered them just enough so that All services were getting just barely enough. Anybody else remember that????

doniston · #19 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by ArizonaSun

During Vietnam, more than 30,000 Canadians (80 killed) served in the US military. During the early years of WWII thousands of Americans served in both the Canadian and British military. Thousands of Irish served in the British military and were shunned by theri government when they returned home.

The point I am making here is it is important "why" one serves, not where one is from.

Completion of military service earns instant citizenship for legal residents.

As I understand it, that's not quite true, but they are put on the fast track

iamwhatiseem · #20 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by doniston

There seem to be two schools of thought on this. one says we have enough, the other says we don't. I think I prefer to wait until we find out which story is accurate. However, I seem to recall that the services all LOWERED their requirements a couple of months ago to line up with the story that we have enough. and lowered them just enough so that All services were getting just barely enough. Anybody else remember that????

Nah - I think there are two schools of thought here though - one fishes the internet for unsubstantiated stories that bash anything America and post it here, the other gets sick of seeing so damn many of them in the public forums.

doniston · #21 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

Breaking News???

Last I knew there were over 100,000 non-citizens serving in the military.
Many are LEGAL immigrants.

Right now every branch except the Army has MORE applicants than they need soldiers for...in other words every branch except the Army is TURNING PEOPLE AWAY.

Nothing here folks but just another malicious angle to bash America

Where's the link on that???

iamwhatiseem · #22 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by doniston

Where's the link on that???

the 100,000 is based on memory - I did find this: U.S. Citizenship for Military Personnel
But that only talks about legal immigrants..there are/have been foreigners in the US military for years (and other countries do as well, for instance their are Americans serving in Australian military, British military and others)

Imperator · #23 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

One could say the huge amounts of support that for instance BlackWater provides in the way of armed asst., logistics and training is out sourcing….

Rakkasan · #24 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by conformfailure

A U.S. military 'at its breaking point' considers foreign recruits - Americas - International Herald Tribune

Worst Idea Ever.

as others have said this is not new

and this is "weaker than a nickle pack of koolaide in the ocean"

No color

NO Smell

NO TASTE

goober · #25 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by proUSA

Some Port Ricans went through basic training when I did back in 82... as you said, nothing new.

Should I tell him that Puerto Ricans are US citizens?

Alex · #26 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by goober

Should I tell him that Puerto Ricans are US citizens?

howsabout Phillipino's? Are they citizens too booger?

proUSA · #27 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

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Originally Posted by goober

Should I tell him that Puerto Ricans are US citizens?

I forgot.

Robert · #28 (**permalink**) 01-04-2007

I served with at least 2 legal residents who were Mexican citizens.

Billy1382 · #29 (**permalink**) 01-05-2007

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Originally Posted by hairballxavier

I think it would be an idea worth looking into. If someone living here wants citizenship and they are willing to actually go fight for our country, then anti-immigration bigots and leftists would be hard-pressed to come up with excuses to deny them citizenship.

I agree, but there should be some tough but fair testing. You want to make sure whoever is in your military is going to perform like you would expect an american to perform. Only thing is it is usually right wing conservatives that are against immigration.

Billy1382 · #30 (**permalink**) 01-05-2007

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Originally Posted by Ironman Jack

Hey don't destroy Goober's SPIN and half-truths as it effects his Liberal status with other wussies!

Now if a few cowards would join instead of hiding at Berkely, UCLA, Columbia, Colorado, Oregon, and Washington, problem solved!

I like how COWARD is avoided, by saying:

I'm a Pacifist
9/11 was internal or the Jews did it
I won't fight for something I don't believe in so therefore I am in the CNN-MSNBC Hall of Fame!
Actually I'm a wimp and I would rather cry, and bitch and blame Bush!!

Real Men & Women in Uniform do not wan't your asses at all, but I see no problem telling Mexicans THEY WILL JOIN if they come here ILLEGAL and yes they can form their OWN companies!

You joinin Failure? Make your Dad proud for ONCE!!

Aside from the most of this pointless post... you think that getting a university education is a cowardly thing to do? Would you prefer a dicatorship where everyone is a soldier and all kept stupid?

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