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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Hairball, you should be consistent in your use of middle names. I know that the fad right-wing scare tactic is to bring up Obama's middle name, but you should at least try to demonstrate some balance.
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Hairball, you should be consistent in your use of middle names. I know that the fad right-wing scare tactic is to bring up Obama's middle name, but you should at least try to demonstrate some balance.
Quit dodging the issue.

Barak Hussein Obama has zero executive experience. That is the point of my post. He is not qualified to be president.

And as far as his middle name is concerned, well that could help him get the hardcore leftist vote since it's like a title of honor to the radical socialist crowd. It certainly won't harm his chances on the left.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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He's a Republican for a start...

Anyway its his leadership skills that define the person he is. Sure socially he and i may differ but in the times we live in i'd be willing to sacrifice the fact that he may take people's guns away (something i'm not altogether worried about as i'll always be allowed to carry mine) but he will keep us safe. Also he's in favor of a smaller government and lower taxes. Also doesn't believe that drilling in Anwar and free trade is bad!
Free trade has certainly done wonders for America's manufacturing base. . .
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Barak Hussein Obama has zero executive experience. That is the point of my post. He is not qualified to be president.

1) How much "executive experience" does John McCain have?
2) How much did Gerald Ford have?
3) By 2008, how much time will Barack Obama have spent in elected positions? How much time in elected positions did George W. Bush have in 2000? (FYI: The governor of Texas actually has LESS power than the Lt. Governor. . .so lack of "executive experience" would also be fitting for Mr. Bush)
4) How much "executive experience" did John Kennedy have in 1960?
5) How 'bout Truman in 1945?
6) Or George H.W. Bush in 1988? (356 days as director of the CIA hardly seems to qualify)
7) Richard Nixon?
8) Lyndon Johnson?
9) Are you seeing a pattern yet?
10) I'm wondering aloud if "lack of executive experience" is a non-argument. . .especially regarding what the Constitution says regarding experience one must have to run for the office of POTUS:

From Article II: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

That's all it says. Nothing about "previous executive experience. . ."
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From Article II: "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

That's all it says. Nothing about "previous executive experience. . ."
Aren't you intelligent enough to understand the difference between being 'qualified' for a job and being 'eligible' for a job? I never said Hussein Obama wasn't eligible.


WTF dude?

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Aren't you intelligent enough to understand the difference between being 'qualified' for a job and being 'eligible' for a job? I never said Hussein Obama wasn't eligible.


WTF dude?

His name is not Hussein Obama.

It is Barack Hussein Obama.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Strange irrational fears these days. On this thread, there are people afraid of a t-shirt http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/soci...rt-flying.html. And here we have hairball afraid of a middle name. What's with all the fear?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Thought that this thread was about the pros and cons of Hillary...

So far there are just to many of the old guard running........ it would be great to see some one that was a small town mayor run for the office and get it, but that will not happen because the old guard has to much of a lock on the office.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Obama's not in the old guard. Another reason why we should vote for him.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Strange irrational fears these days. On this thread, there are people afraid of a t-shirt http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/soci...rt-flying.html. And here we have hairball afraid of a middle name. What's with all the fear?
Here we have Samantha afraid of discussing the subject. What's with the fear Samantha?

Have you learned how to produce a reasoned opinion or argument yet?

Why are you so afraid of learning?
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

Most of the people that have formed a committe too look at running for the office(another way of making money) are of the old guard. The so called new faces that are in it are there to be the sacrificed. Or so that the old guard can say that there was some new blood but that the people still would like to have the old guard.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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Here we have Samantha afraid of discussing the subject. What's with the fear Samantha?
Just one batshit femminist trying to cover up the failures of another...add Pelosi in there and we'll have the 3 most vile women in the country in the same sentance.

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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm in to win"

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1) How much "executive experience" does John McCain have?
2) How much did Gerald Ford have?
3) By 2008, how much time will Barack Obama have spent in elected positions? How much time in elected positions did George W. Bush have in 2000? (FYI: The governor of Texas actually has LESS power than the Lt. Governor. . .so lack of "executive experience" would also be fitting for Mr. Bush)
4) How much "executive experience" did John Kennedy have in 1960?
5) How 'bout Truman in 1945?
6) Or George H.W. Bush in 1988? (356 days as director of the CIA hardly seems to qualify)
7) Richard Nixon?
8) Lyndon Johnson?
9) Are you seeing a pattern yet?
10) I'm wondering aloud if "lack of executive experience" is a non-argument. . .especially regarding what the Constitution says regarding experience one must have to run for the office of POTUS:
Forget the lack of experience stuff, tell me when was the last Senator elected to the Presidency? When was the last Dem from outside the South elected to the WH. Not to mention there has never been a female or black President...precedent and recent history is certainly on our side.
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Re: Hillary Clinton: "I'm a C-Word"

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I really hope she is the nominee!!! She'll make McGovern look like a hero!!
You mean she'll make George McGovern, Distinguished Flying Cross, 35 B-24 combat missions, look like a hero?
I thought the DFC and the 35 combat missions made him look like a hero.

Remember, whoever the Democratic nominee is, it will be similar to 1976, when Carter won, the GOP will have an unpopular lame duck incumbent weighing heavily on whoever it nominates. Bush will be like Nixon, not on the ticket, but on everyones mind.
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Is Hagel going to run? If i were a yank i would vote Hagel all the way. He seems to be the only person with a brain these days in Washington.
So you'd actually vote Republican?

I guess our party atracts all sorts! But then again you see no difference between the GOP and Dems do you? Just a general irrational hatred of U.S. policy right?
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